Chatting with Gundi

[ReneT]

Is it a raw file, Rene, or a .jpg

jpg

[carolyn d]

It's a robin.

Holey moley.... they are bigger in Texas ! :shocked::shocked:

[debilou]

oh, that could be part of the problem...

when you create a .jpg vs. a raw file...

the camera tries to make some assumptions. some of them bad.. like over sharpening

that might have caused the grainy-ness you see...

[ReneT]

oh, that could be part of the problem...

when you create a .jpg vs. a raw file...

the camera tries to make some assumptions. some of them bad.. like over sharpening

that might have caused the grainy-ness you see...

I don't know why I decided to get a more complicated camera than the one I had. But I do have to say that even on auto, it takes much better photos than the other one in low light. Yay. My class will be either this month or Sept. Maybe I'll take both cameras to Sea World. Gary will love that! :D

[ReneT]

Does anyone have a dagger I can borrow? :pray:

[carolyn d]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:Does anyone have a dagger I can borrow? :pray:

[idtwinmom]

OK guys! Here's the scoop! My "free" internet seems to have disappeared. There is a second one but the signal is not nearly as good and I can't trust it. And I've just about reached my limit on not being able to even catch a brief news cast! Heck, the world could blow up and I wouldn't know a thing. (just like the dark ages around here). So, we finally biting the bullet and getting our own cable and internet. Thing is, it won't be installed until Thursday. Until then, being here is completely unreliable and the only way it works in on my computer. The lappie just can not handle that low a signal. So, long story to say: I might not be around much!

So, no long winded talking for a while! OK? Please? (yeah, I know it's useless to ask, but still had to! :lol:)

Chris - you can't go to a crop without a laptop, can you? Yikes, what a dilemma. Glad it's you deciding and not me.

[idtwinmom]

This is at ISO 400, f/5, 1/2 sec. at 100 mm .
I am using a 36 mm extension tube and the same lens you have.. the 50-135 f/2.8. No flash just very diffused light from a window about 8 feet from the subject.

If I had the camera set to AUTO ISO, it would have been well over 1600. I just went back into the room to check. But using MY selection for ISO, the shutter time was much longer (1/2 sec) which introduces less grain over the longer exposure time.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/mamamolar/DSC_0016.jpg

OK, that is some picture. That wouldn't be Spike would it? Have to say, I'm glad it's you living with that thing and not me!!!!!

[carolyn d]

OK, that is some picture. That wouldn't be Spike would it? Have to say, I'm glad it's you living with that thing and not me!!!!!

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yes, that is indeed Spike ! he has been hanging in his tank except for his portrait session. he doesn't bite nor is he too active. Spike, the loafing lizard...I was actually gently poking him with the eraser end of a pencil trying to make him "puff" out his beard but no luck. And he just sat there while I did it... Not a very active critter. Robin says he does move pretty fast when she feeds him his crickets.

[idtwinmom]

That might be an interesting photo session. Put that camera on "Sports" and shoot rapid fire style! (Yeah, I know you don't do auto, but for that it might be worth it!)

[ReneT]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yes, that is indeed Spike ! he has been hanging in his tank except for his portrait session. he doesn't bite nor is he too active. Spike, the loafing lizard...I was actually gently poking him with the eraser end of a pencil trying to make him "puff" out his beard but no luck. And he just sat there while I did it... Not a very active critter. Robin says he does move pretty fast when she feeds him his crickets.

Then I think I would refrain from feeding him crickets. :rofl:

[GrandmaCrys]

:eek: :eek: :eek: You guys are chattier than the GT! :annoyed: :annoyed:

[ReneT]

At Robyn's chat tonight we were talking about font managers. Do any of you use them? If so which one, and what do you like/not like about it? I think I need one to be able to see the samples larger. Thanks!

[idtwinmom]

Hey Shana - Congrats on that LOTD! wonderful LO!

[addicted]

Oh, I just saw this and it works in PSE too!

Open both your working document and your photo.
In your working document select the marquee tool and draw the space where the photo will go.
Now, open your info palette (go to Window > Info)
Make a note of the size of the area marked.
Now, go to your photo. Select the crop tool.
In the Options bar, type in your measurements and the resolution of your working document (don't forget the resolution or it still will not be the right size)
Now Crop. Drag and Drop! Ctrl (Cmd on Mac) > D to Deslect your area and move photo into place!

Voila! It's like magic!
THANK YOU!!! I will have to try this way also!

ahhhh no wonder you didn't ask me when you saw me IRL

Oh yeah guys the one good thing about my stupid laptop, I was over at Heather's BIL trying to get him to fix it and guess who showed up?!!! I even got to meet her dh whom I have only pestered on Yahoo, saying please get Heather I need her NOW. :lol:
I was SO happy to see you again!

oh my goodness I reached the end! That was like a journey in and of itself.

Well keep your fingers and toes crossed, HP said they would fix my lappie for free. I think cuz it is a recall issue. The only problem is they said it would take NINE days. Now let's all count here, who thinks I will get it back before next Friday! uggggggg So now I am debating whether to get a new one and give the old one to my kids since their computer is approximately as old as DIRT and the wireless adapter on it died. That way I would have one for during the crop. Uggggg what to do, what to do. I hate getting too worked up on stuff like this until I have it back fixed, in my hands etc. I don't want them saying, oh we won't fix it cuz of the atmospheric conditions over Mars or some other such nonsense.

OK now where did everyone go?
Just buy another one, why not???? :lol::lol:
LOVED algebra, physics and calculus..
HATED geometry and trig.
Me TOO!!!!

At Robyn's chat tonight we were talking about font managers. Do any of you use them? If so which one, and what do you like/not like about it? I think I need one to be able to see the samples larger. Thanks!
I have one but haven't used it! Why would you want to? Do they do cool things? Maybe I better look at it!


Today we went to an archery shoot at a ski resort and I was terrible! I threw out my shoulder so it hurts but I can manage! It has bee such a long month and I'm ready to just get my life back in order!! I do have another question though!! I printed my sister invites to see how they would turn out and they look terrible! :cry: They look SO good on the computer! I sent them to another place wondering if it was Wal-Mart, but my mom said they weren't great either. They look grainy, the font and all. That is why I was wondering if I should resize my pics smaller first, which didn't do anything. I don't think it's my pictures because the font looks bad also. What else could it be?? I am getting sick about it since she wants them to get printed. :help: Do any of you have any ideas?

[ReneT]

I have one but haven't used it! Why would you want to? Do they do cool things? Maybe I better look at it!

In my PSE6, I can only see itty bitty samples of the font, so I don't know what they really look like unless I try all of them. In a font manager, apparently you can see them bigger and compare fonts side by side to decide which one you want to use. Also Robyn said that you can install/uninstall them from the font manager, and that's beneficial because too many installed fonts is supposed to slow down your PSE or PS or whatever. My main thing is to be able to see them bigger to know which one I want to use.

[addicted]

In my PSE6, I can only see itty bitty samples of the font, so I don't know what they really look like unless I try all of them. In a font manager, apparently you can see them bigger and compare fonts side by side to decide which one you want to use. Also Robyn said that you can install/uninstall them from the font manager, and that's beneficial because too many installed fonts is supposed to slow down your PSE or PS or whatever. My main thing is to be able to see them bigger to know which one I want to use.

That's good to know, maybe I better check mine out! Mine just came with a CD full of fonts, so (shhhhhh) I can just mail you the CD and then you can mail it back! Is that legal, if not don't tell anyone! :)

[idtwinmom]

Heather, What resolution did you work in? I know that many people have complained about the quality when you print a 200 resolution file. Also, what size are you scrapping them in. They aren't stretching it any to make the print are they? (I'm sure that's not it, but I have to ask.) Beyond that I can't think of a thing. Hope someone else comes along and can help more.

[addicted]

Heather, What resolution did you work in? I know that many people have complained about the quality when you print a 200 resolution file. Also, what size are you scrapping them in. They aren't stretching it any to make the print are they? (I'm sure that's not it, but I have to ask.) Beyond that I can't think of a thing. Hope someone else comes along and can help more.

Oh my gosh, I have not clue about the resloution, because I just use what my kits are and since I didn't use one maybe it's really low! Oh I hope this is the solution, that would be SO easy to fix!! The size and printing are the same so that's not a problem. I'll be back with the answer to the res.

[addicted]

YOU ARE A GENIOUS!!!! I bet that was my problem, I opened a new doc and it was 72, so I bet that is what was set at. THANK YOU AGAIN!!!! You made my day, I'll let you know if they print better on Monday when I get back to town!!

[ReneT]

That's good to know, maybe I better check mine out! Mine just came with a CD full of fonts, so (shhhhhh) I can just mail you the CD and then you can mail it back! Is that legal, if not don't tell anyone! :)

Probably not, but I won't tell if you won't! :no:

[Christine]

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I do! I pick them a lot! Yours are the best ever! And have you noticed how much mileage I have gotten out of the Cerulean series for the cruise album! It's been great!

That would be Utah! How cool would it be Chris if the Red Raiders got to play the Utes in a football playoff game? Could that ever happen? I don't know how all that works. But it would be fun (up until you guys beat our socks off). :rofl:

I say get a new one. Fabulous designers need fabulous lappies.

yay! and thanks! I know, I am loving all of the mileage you are getting out of them!

yeah they could play each other, just depends on how they set up the out of conference schedule. and yeah that would be wayyyyyy fun! I think I would tell dh we have to go down if the game was played down there. :D
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yay! and thanks! I know, I am loving all of the mileage you are getting out of them!

yeah they could play each other, just depends on how they set up the out of conference schedule. and yeah that would be wayyyyyy fun! I think I would tell dh we have to go down if the game was played down there. :D

I like your way of thinking on the laptop LOL

[Christine]

well, you earn income with it... and since it is a work necessity, then spring for the new one. Should always have good tools to produce good product..and to be able to avail yourself of the better technology, graphics etc....( just trying to help you with justifying the expense, ya know. )

LOL I will pass this on to dh, let's just not tell him I do 90%+ of my designing on my desktop cuz after all it has the 22inch monitor plus the dual screens w/ the 15. :D

[Christine]

At Robyn's chat tonight we were talking about font managers. Do any of you use them? If so which one, and what do you like/not like about it? I think I need one to be able to see the samples larger. Thanks!

I use the font thing, works great and is FREE!

[ReneT]

I use the font thing, works great and is FREE!

Cool, thanks!

[Christine]

THANK YOU!!! I will have to try this way also!
I was SO happy to see you again!
me too
Just buy another one, why not???? :lol::lol:
Hope you all are planning on buying lots of my stuff so I can say see honey, I have the money to buy that laptop :D

Me TOO!!!!


I have one but haven't used it! Why would you want to? Do they do cool things? Maybe I better look at it!
They make it easy to leave lots of your less frequently used fonts uninstalled. Then you can load it when you need it, which is only temporary. Keeps your computer happier if you don't have 2000 fonts installed. :D


Today we went to an archery shoot at a ski resort and I was terrible! I threw out my shoulder so it hurts but I can manage! It has bee such a long month and I'm ready to just get my life back in order!! I do have another question though!! I printed my sister invites to see how they would turn out and they look terrible! :cry: They look SO good on the computer! I sent them to another place wondering if it was Wal-Mart, but my mom said they weren't great either. They look grainy, the font and all. That is why I was wondering if I should resize my pics smaller first, which didn't do anything. I don't think it's my pictures because the font looks bad also. What else could it be?? I am getting sick about it since she wants them to get printed. :help: Do any of you have any ideas?

what ppi did you design the card at? Yeah something sounds wonky if the font looks bad too. Did you save as a .jpg? Have you tried on your home computer?

On the archery thing, I tried it for the first time EVER up at girl's camp last summer. The girls were laughing at me cuz I kept closing my eyes when I would shoot. I noticed when I went with Zach to scout camp a few weeks ago, I did the same thing! Sorry your arm hurts! hugs!

[Christine]

Heather, What resolution did you work in? I know that many people have complained about the quality when you print a 200 resolution file. Also, what size are you scrapping them in. They aren't stretching it any to make the print are they? (I'm sure that's not it, but I have to ask.) Beyond that I can't think of a thing. Hope someone else comes along and can help more.

When I made my Hawaii book, I made the pages in 200ppi and it was gorgeous, I thought and have printed TONS of LOs too. But I wouldn't go any lower than that.

[Christine]

YOU ARE A GENIOUS!!!! I bet that was my problem, I opened a new doc and it was 72, so I bet that is what was set at. THANK YOU AGAIN!!!! You made my day, I'll let you know if they print better on Monday when I get back to town!!

oh yay! I was just thinking, I bet she opened it up and it was a default to 72. BTW, you can change the defaults of what it opens in, by going into the preferences. ;)

[Christine]

Crazy busy day for us. It was dd2's birthday and so we were go go going! Especially cuz the girls wanted to go shopping for school clothes. We found quite a few great deals. Mom had to get a couple of new pretties too. :D I have to look my best for all of you, right?! :lol:

[ReneT]

Crazy busy day for us. It was dd2's birthday and so we were go go going! Especially cuz the girls wanted to go shopping for school clothes. We found quite a few great deals. Mom had to get a couple of new pretties too. :D I have to look my best for all of you, right?! :lol:

I wish you were coming to the SA GTG! :cry:

[Shana34]

Hey Shana - Congrats on that LOTD! wonderful LO!

TY so much! That was a great surprise! :)

[stitchmich]

At Robyn's chat tonight we were talking about font managers. Do any of you use them? If so which one, and what do you like/not like about it? I think I need one to be able to see the samples larger. Thanks!

I have both Font THing and AMP Font Viewer. They work a bit differently. I'd say go with Font Thing. You definitely need a font manager. You're gonna love it.

LOL I will pass this on to dh, let's just not tell him I do 90%+ of my designing on my desktop cuz after all it has the 22inch monitor plus the dual screens w/ the 15. :D

Dual screens... SWEET! DH has 4.

Crazy busy day for us. It was dd2's birthday and so we were go go going! Especially cuz the girls wanted to go shopping for school clothes. We found quite a few great deals. Mom had to get a couple of new pretties too. :D I have to look my best for all of you, right?! :lol:

Happy Birthday, DD2! We've got 3 weeks until school starts and need to go shopping too.

[ReneT]

TY so much! That was a great surprise! :)

Yay for you!!!!! :yippee:

[ReneT]

I have both Font THing and AMP Font Viewer. They work a bit differently. I'd say go with Font Thing. You definitely need a font manager. You're gonna love it.



Dual screens... SWEET! DH has 4.



Happy Birthday, DD2! We've got 3 weeks until school starts and need to go shopping too.

I'm going to download Font Thing today. Thanks.

What is the purpose of dual screens?

[debilou]

When you have a laptop - with a tiny screen like 15 inch..

You can add a nice big 22 inch monitor...

And, see your beautiful layouts better...

You can work on both monitors at once.

or just the big one at home..

and, the laptop screen when you go on the road

very versatile

and, great set up!!

[stitchmich]

I'm going to download Font Thing today. Thanks.

What is the purpose of dual screens?

Bigger area to look at!

[addicted]

What is the link for the font thing? I want to see if it's like the one I have or if mine is not even close to what you guys are talking about?

[ReneT]

What is the link for the font thing? I want to see if it's like the one I have or if mine is not even close to what you guys are talking about?

Here is one for Vista:

http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/The-Font-Thing-Download-4307.html

[idtwinmom]

YOU ARE A GENIOUS!!!! I bet that was my problem, I opened a new doc and it was 72, so I bet that is what was set at. THANK YOU AGAIN!!!! You made my day, I'll let you know if they print better on Monday when I get back to town!!

:lol::lol::lol:
No, not a genious, just informed. I know there has been a huge discussion about resolution and how it prints and so knew that was a possibility. And yes, a 72 ppi would not print worth a darn. Bet it fixes it right away! But let us know.

[idtwinmom]

When I made my Hawaii book, I made the pages in 200ppi and it was gorgeous, I thought and have printed TONS of LOs too. But I wouldn't go any lower than that.

Oh, I print 200 all the time with absolutely no problem. But some people, because of the way the printer (I mean commercial, not home) handles them, has had issues. That's why the whole hullabaloo and the need for you poor designers to do everything in 2 resolutions.

[ReneT]

I print all my 12x12 layouts in 200ppi too, and they always look great. No problems. Even when I was having the layouts printed at Kinkos, they were 200ppi.

[idtwinmom]

LOL I will pass this on to dh, let's just not tell him I do 90%+ of my designing on my desktop cuz after all it has the 22inch monitor plus the dual screens w/ the 15. :D
I totally promise not to tell. Can you please tell DH that I really need that new camera? You know, that DSLR that does HD movies that you can snag stills from? It's only $900 or less for the basics. (the Nikon D5000)

I use the font thing, works great and is FREE!
Hmmm...beginning to think I should check into Font Managers for my Mac!

[carolyn d]

I totally promise not to tell. Can you please tell DH that I really need that new camera? You know, that DSLR that does HD movies that you can snag stills from? It's only $900 or less for the basics. (the Nikon D5000)

I have been doing some research along the lines of that camera... you need to be careful with lens choice, as it has no in-camera focus motor... therefore you would need to watch out for what lenses would work with it.... The LENS would need a focus motor. That has been the problem with the D40 and D60...certain lenses won't work. Any lens that won't work with a specific model camera has that info noted in the lens tech specs.

If you think you'd want to use your old film lenses, then you would probably be better off with a D90 which also shoots video AND can work with any lens. It is basically my camera ( same sensor, metering system, same MP, same focusing system) with the addition of the video and the presets.

The D5000 ( currently $664 body only at Adorama http://www.adorama.com/INKD5000.html?searchinfo=nikon+d5000) has The kit lens, the 18-55mm wide angle. The 50 -200mm VR ( $250 http://www.adorama.com/NK55200VRU.html?searchinfo=55-200mm+nikon ) lens works on it .. From my reading, the 18-200 VR ($600 http://www.adorama.com/NK18200DXR.html?searchinfo=55-200mm+nikon) lens works as well. The 18-200 VR would be a lens that would NEVER need to come off the camera. But I think for that amount of cash for a variable aperture lens, you could spend the same amount for the Tokina 50-135 f/2.8 and have a considerably faster, pro level lens. http://www.adorama.com/TN50135NKAF.html?searchinfo=tokina+50-135

You are going to have my camera at your disposal when I come up and a selection of lenses to play with. So you can give them all a whirl. I personally think lens selection is like underwear...some feel better than others. And some just work better for the average daily situations.

I had the 50-200 mm , which I loved, and was inexpensive and great to learn on.. then i sprang for the external flash which makes a HECK of a difference for indoor shooting. Once I started to expand my knowledge and skill, and the money became more available, ONLY THEN did I spring for the more costly lenses.

Shipping runs about $47.00 to Alaska by the way.. even if it says FREE SHIPPING. Seems nothing is free to that distance.


Hmmm...beginning to think I should check into Font Managers for my Mac!


EEEEEEhhh gads,,, that was way too long !

[idtwinmom]

EEEEEEhhh gads,,, that was way too long !

Well, I really had planned on discussing all of this when you got here, but thanks for the info! I also want to really check on the Canons that are comparable. (Think we might just be having the why Nikon, why Canon talk too!) Of course, it's all a pipe dream any way at this point what with paying for the move and just keeping our heads above water right now. Top that with DH really needs a new laptop for work and they won't spring for it. Sooooooooo..............

[carolyn d]

Well, I really had planned on discussing all of this when you got here, but thanks for the info! I also want to really check on the Canons that are comparable. (Think we might just be having the why Nikon, why Canon talk too!) Of course, it's all a pipe dream any way at this point what with paying for the move and just keeping our heads above water right now. Top that with DH really needs a new laptop for work and they won't spring for it. Sooooooooo..............

I ONLY have a nikon because that is what my film camera was and i was comfortable with it.
Nikon and Canon offer very similar bodies, lens choices etc. Each have their stronger or weaker points.
Regardless of brand IT'S STILL ONLY A CAMERA.. it's ONLY the HARDWARE that puts YOU in the drivers seat ! you can spend $5000 on a camera and lens, but what makes it work is what YOU do with it, how you choose to use it and the creative potential YOU SEE. You can still take images that are just as crappy as those you get with a $150 point and shoot if you don't take the time to learn the hardware. ( think of it as learning CS4 as opposed to drag and drop)

[idtwinmom]

Well, yes, although I have noticed that Canon users tend to be, well, how to put this politely, snobs? (and I don't mean any of those here BTW, I'm talking the sales people and that sort of thing). Nikon users tend to be a little less particular. Since my film camera is a Nikon, I have been leaning that way too, but don't know if any of the lenses would work. Another thing that we need to explore. I know there are some models that they work on, just not sure which.

[stitchmich]

I ONLY have a nikon because that is what my film camera was and i was comfortable with it.
Nikon and Canon offer very similar bodies, lens choices etc. Each have their stronger or weaker points.
Regardless of brand IT'S STILL ONLY A CAMERA.. it's ONLY the HARDWARE that puts YOU in the drivers seat ! you can spend $5000 on a camera and lens, but what makes it work is what YOU do with it, how you choose to use it and the creative potential YOU SEE. You can still take images that are just as crappy as those you get with a $150 point and shoot if you don't take the time to learn the hardware. ( think of it as learning CS4 as opposed to drag and drop)

Well, yes, although I have noticed that Canon users tend to be, well, how to put this politely, snobs? (and I don't mean any of those here BTW, I'm talking the sales people and that sort of thing). Nikon users tend to be a little less particular. Since my film camera is a Nikon, I have been leaning that way too, but don't know if any of the lenses would work. Another thing that we need to explore. I know there are some models that they work on, just not sure which.

Excellent points, Carolyn. And Lisa, that made me laugh! I always owned Canon P&S cameras, several of them. But when I got my DSLR, I went with Nikon. Two reasons... price and fit. The price point on the Nikon D40 was right for me. More importantly after holding a lot of cameras, the D40 just felt right in my hand. There is a lot to be said for how a camera "fits" you.

[idtwinmom]

I agree Michele, and when I do get to "buy" a new camera, I will be spending a lot of time in the camera shop. We have one here in Anchorage that has the best selection. The deal with all kinds of people including a ton of high-class professionals, so they carry even the dreamiest of top of the line lenses and stuff. Of course, if I remember, they were a bit partial to Canon, but I can overlook that! :lol:

BTW - my DS#1 just said the cutest thing. Nearly fell out of my chair laughing. DH is working to get the cable pulled because we need the TV to sit in the opposite corner of the room from the one cable outlet. We are installing a whole new box and running the cable thru the crawl space. Anyway, he's using a power saw to cut thru the drywall and a piece of plywood behind it and making lots of noise. DS, "Hey, pipe down over there, we can't here our show!" I really split my side on that one.

[idtwinmom]

BTW - Chris, I am cleaning up all the downloads from this week and remembered... I got to spend a little during the scrappy hour last night and bought both of your Buttons, Borders and More that I didn't already have! Yeah! Now I have all 3!!!!

[stitchmich]

I agree Michele, and when I do get to "buy" a new camera, I will be spending a lot of time in the camera shop. We have one here in Anchorage that has the best selection. The deal with all kinds of people including a ton of high-class professionals, so they carry even the dreamiest of top of the line lenses and stuff. Of course, if I remember, they were a bit partial to Canon, but I can overlook that! :lol:

BTW - my DS#1 just said the cutest thing. Nearly fell out of my chair laughing. DH is working to get the cable pulled because we need the TV to sit in the opposite corner of the room from the one cable outlet. We are installing a whole new box and running the cable thru the crawl space. Anyway, he's using a power saw to cut thru the drywall and a piece of plywood behind it and making lots of noise. DS, "Hey, pipe down over there, we can't here our show!" I really split my side on that one.

Oh! I'd love to go in a good camera shop like that just to hold all the dream cameras I can't afford! :lol:

"Pipe down" :rofl: out of the mouths of babes, eh?

[idtwinmom]

Well, it just goes to show, they speak what they hear! :rofl:

[carolyn d]

Well, yes, although I have noticed that Canon users tend to be, well, how to put this politely, snobs? (and I don't mean any of those here BTW, I'm talking the sales people and that sort of thing). Nikon users tend to be a little less particular. Since my film camera is a Nikon, I have been leaning that way too, but don't know if any of the lenses would work. Another thing that we need to explore. I know there are some models that they work on, just not sure which.

that would be something we can try.. putting your lenses on my camera ! I'll bring my manual because in the back there is a list of lenses that will work on the body... howerver, they probably WILL NOT auto focus.. some of the older lenses are manual focus only.

I'm thinking you and Chris should have an interesting time fiddling with my equipment. I have a plethora of lenses and filters, and my newest toys- extension tubes. Great fun. If nothing else, you will both get an idea of what type of lens you are looking for with your intital purchase... whether it be canon or nikon. I'm not judgmental..

and it is true what Michelle said.. it's how it fits in your hands that makes the sale. Mine will be a bit heavier .

[idtwinmom]

A bit heavier than what? I'm used to a P&S so everything is heavier. :lol: I haven't used my film camera in so long it hurts and the last time I did, I took lousy pics. You just can't buy good film these days and I have forgotten all the rules. They are autofocus lenses, but some of the newer cameras can't access the system or is it that my autofocus engine is in the wrong place. Don't know because I haven't investigated that much. I get frustrated building the "dream" purchase when there is no way to actually buy. DH on the other hand, can build those dreams all day long and be happy just doing that.

[idtwinmom]

BTW - I can learn to deal with ISO and Fstops, but don't ask me to manually focus. My sight isn't clear enough to do that!

[carolyn d]

A bit heavier than what? I'm used to a P&S so everything is heavier. :lol: I haven't used my film camera in so long it hurts and the last time I did, I took lousy pics. You just can't buy good film these days and I have forgotten all the rules. They are autofocus lenses, but some of the newer cameras can't access the system or is it that my autofocus engine is in the wrong place. Don't know because I haven't investigated that much. I get frustrated building the "dream" purchase when there is no way to actually buy. DH on the other hand, can build those dreams all day long and be happy just doing that.

A bit heavier than any other camera body you may have had the chance to fondle.
if the lenses are auto focus, then they should be usable..they may not engage with the metering system, but we'll see ! Better to invesitage BEFORE the purchase, then you have a better idea of where you are going with it.

Me, I went in full force and BLIND!

[carolyn d]

BTW - I can learn to deal with ISO and Fstops, but don't ask me to manually focus. My sight isn't clear enough to do that!

LOL ! In the viewfinder is a little dot that stops blinking when the focus is correct !!! Gotcha bases covered !

[Shana34]

Okay you ladies are trouble. All this talk has me wanting to get my own wide load printer, an awesome Digital SLR, and as always...more kits! LOL

Where is that millionaire that can't live without me? Anybody seen him?

[idtwinmom]

LOL ! In the viewfinder is a little dot that stops blinking when the focus is correct !!! Gotcha bases covered !

Cool Beans (as you have taught me to say)! :lol: I've always had trouble taking pics until these good autofocus cameras hit the market. I have a really funky astigmatism that can't be fully corrected with lenses. It also affects my ability to handle heights. I get vertigo really bad!

[idtwinmom]

Shana - you would have to share! (although DH might be a little put out, I think if I offered to share the wealth, he might just let me go!) :rofl:

And I forgot to put the wide carriage printer on my Santa Baby LO, but then I ran out of room too! :lol:

[ReneT]

I have the printer, but I think I need a wide angle lens and a lens with more zoom. I also need a Wacom tablet. Where is Santa when you need him?

[idtwinmom]

I agree Rene - but I think we might just find that Santa could produce that millionaire before he could put all that under my tree! :lol:

[carolyn d]

I have the printer, but I think I need a wide angle lens and a lens with more zoom. I also need a Wacom tablet. Where is Santa when you need him?


12-24mm f/4 or
11-16 f/2.8
10 mm fisheye
80-400 f/2.8 or
200-400 mm
wacom is probably the least expensive on the list !!! LOL

[idtwinmom]

Yep! I'm sure that's true! :rofl:

[carolyn d]

Cool Beans (as you have taught me to say)! :lol: I've always had trouble taking pics until these good autofocus cameras hit the market. I have a really funky astigmatism that can't be fully corrected with lenses. It also affects my ability to handle heights. I get vertigo really bad!


I had a tough time with auto focus becasue my first ( and only) camera was manual focus... I had to learn how to diable it while I learned the other stuff. too much all at one time.. so if there was something I could control I WANTED IT !

[idtwinmom]

Argh! DH didn't do what was asked of him and now I get to pay the price! Gotta go work on the dinner!

Hugs all!

[carolyn d]

I give you guys kudos for wanting to deal with wide format printers. I'm basically lazy and dont' want to deal with the ink, paper etc. I hate dealing with the little inkjets lurking around here !

WHEW!!! what a weekend. My daughter moved back home as Tim was moving out. To say this place looks like a bomb went off....would be an understatement. Tim, by the way, is now living about 1/4 mile from home.... the 3 family home is owned by a friend's Dad,, 3 bedrooms, livingroom, kitchen... and he's only charging them $700/month. He's on the third floor, 2 friends of his live on the second floor and the owners daughter and fiance live on the first. The fiance and Time have been friends since they were 8...so the father (owner) has a good group of reliable, employeed, respectful people populating his house.

[ReneT]

I agree Rene - but I think we might just find that Santa could produce that millionaire before he could put all that under my tree! :lol:

Well, if we had a millionaire, Santa wouldn't have to put it under the tree.

[ReneT]

12-24mm f/4 or
11-16 f/2.8
10 mm fisheye
80-400 f/2.8 or
200-400 mm
wacom is probably the least expensive on the list !!! LOL

Yep, it's probably the ONLY thing I'll be getting this year for Christmas, since I told DH the camera and f/2.8 was for my birthday in Oct. And that was kinda with the understanding that I would sell the P&S, but it hasn't sold, and I'm not really pushing it that much, because I want to keep it to take with me in my purse. It's not my fault it hasn't sold, right? ;)

[ReneT]

I give you guys kudos for wanting to deal with wide format printers. I'm basically lazy and dont' want to deal with the ink, paper etc. I hate dealing with the little inkjets lurking around here !

WHEW!!! what a weekend. My daughter moved back home as Tim was moving out. To say this place looks like a bomb went off....would be an understatement. Tim, by the way, is now living about 1/4 mile from home.... the 3 family home is owned by a friend's Dad,, 3 bedrooms, livingroom, kitchen... and he's only charging them $700/month. He's on the third floor, 2 friends of his live on the second floor and the owners daughter and fiance live on the first. The fiance and Time have been friends since they were 8...so the father (owner) has a good group of reliable, employeed, respectful people populating his house.

So, one child out, one child in? Plus a child, dog and lizard? Not a fair trade I'd say.

[idtwinmom]

Well, if we had a millionaire, Santa wouldn't have to put it under the tree.

Oh, so true! Maybe we can get Santa to put the millionaire under the tree instead! One present instead of 60?

[carolyn d]

So, one child out, one child in? Plus a child, dog and lizard? Not a fair trade I'd say.

no dog... a cat- Miss Holly Pants.
and yes... Spike.. he's sitting on the bed watching tv with me and robin.

well, it was a lateral move.. still 2 kids here .. I had all three of them for 36 hours.

[idtwinmom]

So, one child out, one child in? Plus a child, dog and lizard? Not a fair trade I'd say.

I think that is just a child out, a child with lizard and cat in! Right Carolyn?

Are you ready to leave yet? After this weekend I mean! :lol:

[idtwinmom]

I averted the crisis and he is back in control. Now I can go back to making my alpha for the SNL girls!

[ReneT]

Since we're talking about kids moving back in, here's an update on my DS. He called me last week and asked if he could have some money for food or come to the house and get some of our groceries. I told him no since I had given him $160 a week and 1/2 earlier for food, but instead of buying groceries, he went out to eat numerous times with friends, and spent all that money AND managed to overdraw his checking account by $187! He emailed me yesterday saying his phone had been turned off, he was stressed, had no money for gas or food, couldn't find his keys. He says he was supposed to start a job today, but I think he's lying to me. I told him the only thing I could do was to bring him an extra key to his apartment. So I took DH with me, so Drew wouldn't try to start a fight when he didn't get his way. We took the key to him and he asked what he was supposed to do now. I said, "Well, the things we have been telling you were going to happen are now finally happening, and you need to figure it out yourself. I've given you advice for 2 years now that you haven't listened to, so you have to work it out yourself." So he asked to borrow Gary's phone to call his dad. He has NO relationship with his dad. His dad maybe sees him about once every 2 or 3 years, and has never helped out except for court ordered child support, which has been over for 2 years now. So I don't know what happened with that conversation, but if he does help, it will maybe be $50 or so, I'm guessing, not enough to pay his rent or bills or anything. So Drew is a bit stressed right now. But he's got to figure it out. I still can't believe he's not been evicted. He came to family dinner Wed night and ate a bunch! But he acted mad the whole time, I'm guessing because we wouldn't give him any money or groceries. I've given him names of churches and organizations here in town that feed the homeless and hungry. It's hard for me to know he has no money for food, but he's got friends that I think are feeding him right now, and he needs to figure it out and get a job. I've done everything I know to do. He constantly says, "I'm your own son. I wouldn't let this happen to you", but I know he's just trying to manipulate. He had talked about joining the Navy, and Gary went with him to go talk to them when I was in Austin, but then didn't go back the next day like he was supposed to to take a test. Fun times. ;)

[ReneT]

Oh, so true! Maybe we can get Santa to put the millionaire under the tree instead! One present instead of 60?

One present would buy us 60 (or more)! :rofl:

[ReneT]

no dog... a cat- Miss Holly Pants.
and yes... Spike.. he's sitting on the bed watching tv with me and robin.

well, it was a lateral move.. still 2 kids here .. I had all three of them for 36 hours.

I just don't think I could sit on the bed with Spike. Or even be in the same house as him. He looks scary!

[idtwinmom]

Since we're talking about kids moving back in, here's an update on my DS. He called me last week and asked if he could have some money for food or come to the house and get some of our groceries. I told him no since I had given him $160 a week and 1/2 earlier for food, but instead of buying groceries, he went out to eat numerous times with friends, and spent all that money AND managed to overdraw his checking account by $187! He emailed me yesterday saying his phone had been turned off, he was stressed, had no money for gas or food, couldn't find his keys. He says he was supposed to start a job today, but I think he's lying to me. I told him the only thing I could do was to bring him an extra key to his apartment. So I took DH with me, so Drew wouldn't try to start a fight when he didn't get his way. We took the key to him and he asked what he was supposed to do now. I said, "Well, the things we have been telling you were going to happen are now finally happening, and you need to figure it out yourself. I've given you advice for 2 years now that you haven't listened to, so you have to work it out yourself." So he asked to borrow Gary's phone to call his dad. He has NO relationship with his dad. His dad maybe sees him about once every 2 or 3 years, and has never helped out except for court ordered child support, which has been over for 2 years now. So I don't know what happened with that conversation, but if he does help, it will maybe be $50 or so, I'm guessing, not enough to pay his rent or bills or anything. So Drew is a bit stressed right now. But he's got to figure it out. I still can't believe he's not been evicted. He came to family dinner Wed night and ate a bunch! But he acted mad the whole time, I'm guessing because we wouldn't give him any money or groceries. I've given him names of churches and organizations here in town that feed the homeless and hungry. It's hard for me to know he has no money for food, but he's got friends that I think are feeding him right now, and he needs to figure it out and get a job. I've done everything I know to do. He constantly says, "I'm your own son. I wouldn't let this happen to you", but I know he's just trying to manipulate. He had talked about joining the Navy, and Gary went with him to go talk to them when I was in Austin, but then didn't go back the next day like he was supposed to to take a test. Fun times. ;)
Oh, how hard this must be for you! I simply can't imagine having to let your child go hungry. But you are doing the right thing. It's time he took care of himself. We are here to listen and give you support, you know that. Keep it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just don't think I could sit on the bed with Spike. Or even be in the same house as him. He looks scary!
I'm on your side with this one. I'm pretty sure I couldn't sit in the same room unless he was locked tight in a cage!!!!!!!!!

[GrandmaCrys]

what ppi did you design the card at? Yeah something sounds wonky if the font looks bad too. Did you save as a .jpg? Have you tried on your home computer?

On the archery thing, I tried it for the first time EVER up at girl's camp last summer. The girls were laughing at me cuz I kept closing my eyes when I would shoot. I noticed when I went with Zach to scout camp a few weeks ago, I did the same thing! Sorry your arm hurts! hugs!

Archery was the only *A* I ever got in college!! :D :D As a young girl, my father and I took archery lessons at the Family Y - a *bonding* experience! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Since we're talking about kids moving back in, here's an update on my DS. He called me last week and asked if he could have some money for food or come to the house and get some of our groceries. I told him no since I had given him $160 a week and 1/2 earlier for food, but instead of buying groceries, he went out to eat numerous times with friends, and spent all that money AND managed to overdraw his checking account by $187! He emailed me yesterday saying his phone had been turned off, he was stressed, had no money for gas or food, couldn't find his keys. He says he was supposed to start a job today, but I think he's lying to me. I told him the only thing I could do was to bring him an extra key to his apartment. So I took DH with me, so Drew wouldn't try to start a fight when he didn't get his way. We took the key to him and he asked what he was supposed to do now. I said, "Well, the things we have been telling you were going to happen are now finally happening, and you need to figure it out yourself. I've given you advice for 2 years now that you haven't listened to, so you have to work it out yourself." So he asked to borrow Gary's phone to call his dad. He has NO relationship with his dad. His dad maybe sees him about once every 2 or 3 years, and has never helped out except for court ordered child support, which has been over for 2 years now. So I don't know what happened with that conversation, but if he does help, it will maybe be $50 or so, I'm guessing, not enough to pay his rent or bills or anything. So Drew is a bit stressed right now. But he's got to figure it out. I still can't believe he's not been evicted. He came to family dinner Wed night and ate a bunch! But he acted mad the whole time, I'm guessing because we wouldn't give him any money or groceries. I've given him names of churches and organizations here in town that feed the homeless and hungry. It's hard for me to know he has no money for food, but he's got friends that I think are feeding him right now, and he needs to figure it out and get a job. I've done everything I know to do. He constantly says, "I'm your own son. I wouldn't let this happen to you", but I know he's just trying to manipulate. He had talked about joining the Navy, and Gary went with him to go talk to them when I was in Austin, but then didn't go back the next day like he was supposed to to take a test. Fun times. ;)

:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: Hang tight, Sweetie; you're doing the right thing. :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

[idtwinmom]

Oh, my, I just noticed that I went over 7500 posts! WooHoo, another flair update coming! :lol:

[idtwinmom]

I also just realized that my name is lost! :cry: How did that happen? Did I loose it because I topped the 7500?

[ReneT]

Thanks for the support guys. I'm off to spend some time with DH. He finally finished, golfing, mowing and fixing the mower, so I think we're going to watch a movie or something.

[carolyn d]

Since we're talking about kids moving back in, here's an update on my DS. He called me last week and asked if he could have some money for food or come to the house and get some of our groceries. I told him no since I had given him $160 a week and 1/2 earlier for food, but instead of buying groceries, he went out to eat numerous times with friends, and spent all that money AND managed to overdraw his checking account by $187! He emailed me yesterday saying his phone had been turned off, he was stressed, had no money for gas or food, couldn't find his keys. He says he was supposed to start a job today, but I think he's lying to me. I told him the only thing I could do was to bring him an extra key to his apartment. So I took DH with me, so Drew wouldn't try to start a fight when he didn't get his way. We took the key to him and he asked what he was supposed to do now. I said, "Well, the things we have been telling you were going to happen are now finally happening, and you need to figure it out yourself. I've given you advice for 2 years now that you haven't listened to, so you have to work it out yourself." So he asked to borrow Gary's phone to call his dad. He has NO relationship with his dad. His dad maybe sees him about once every 2 or 3 years, and has never helped out except for court ordered child support, which has been over for 2 years now. So I don't know what happened with that conversation, but if he does help, it will maybe be $50 or so, I'm guessing, not enough to pay his rent or bills or anything. So Drew is a bit stressed right now. But he's got to figure it out. I still can't believe he's not been evicted. He came to family dinner Wed night and ate a bunch! But he acted mad the whole time, I'm guessing because we wouldn't give him any money or groceries. I've given him names of churches and organizations here in town that feed the homeless and hungry. It's hard for me to know he has no money for food, but he's got friends that I think are feeding him right now, and he needs to figure it out and get a job. I've done everything I know to do. He constantly says, "I'm your own son. I wouldn't let this happen to you", but I know he's just trying to manipulate. He had talked about joining the Navy, and Gary went with him to go talk to them when I was in Austin, but then didn't go back the next day like he was supposed to to take a test. Fun times. ;)

Oh Rene... while I know this is so difficult for you... good for you sticking to your guns!!!! Some learn easy, some learn hard but they do learn ! Even if they don't want to ! hang tough GF.

[carolyn d]

I just don't think I could sit on the bed with Spike. Or even be in the same house as him. He looks scary!

He's only about a foot long and less wide than my hand at his widest point. . All he did was fall asleep while he was on the bed anyway. and it's not like he moves very fast- if he moves at all...

[ReneT]

He's only about a foot long and less wide than my hand at his widest point. . All he did was fall asleep while he was on the bed anyway. and it's not like he moves very fast- if he moves at all...

What kind of lizard is he? When I was taking photos of the iguanas in Mexico, I was terrified one was going to start running at me! :eek:

[Christine]

Well, I really had planned on discussing all of this when you got here, but thanks for the info! I also want to really check on the Canons that are comparable. (Think we might just be having the why Nikon, why Canon talk too!) Of course, it's all a pipe dream any way at this point what with paying for the move and just keeping our heads above water right now. Top that with DH really needs a new laptop for work and they won't spring for it. Sooooooooo..............

oh oh oh! Best Buy has a GREAT laptop deal:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9999113600050001&type=product&id=pcmprd113700050001

(Anybody want to guess what I am getting tomorrow.) :D

[Christine]

BTW - Chris, I am cleaning up all the downloads from this week and remembered... I got to spend a little during the scrappy hour last night and bought both of your Buttons, Borders and More that I didn't already have! Yeah! Now I have all 3!!!!

:yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:

[ReneT]

oh oh oh! Best Buy has a GREAT laptop deal:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9999113600050001&type=product&id=pcmprd113700050001

(Anybody want to guess what I am getting tomorrow.) :D

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm.............................a new lappie from Best Buy?

[Christine]

Okay you ladies are trouble. All this talk has me wanting to get my own wide load printer, an awesome Digital SLR, and as always...more kits! LOL

Where is that millionaire that can't live without me? Anybody seen him?

oh stick around we can always help you spend your money. :lol:

[Christine]

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm.............................a new lappie from Best Buy?

:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:

[Christine]

Hugs Rene! I know it is difficult, but I am with you and everyone else. He MUST learn and he can do it easy or he can do it hard, but eventually he will figure it out. I just hope for both of your sakes it is sooner than later. :hug:

[ReneT]

Hugs Rene! I know it is difficult, but I am with you and everyone else. He MUST learn and he can do it easy or he can do it hard, but eventually he will figure it out. I just hope for both of your sakes it is sooner than later. :hug:

Yeah, sooner would work for me. :D I do OK as long as I keep busy, but in those moments (like now) when I'm the only one up, and alone with my thoughts, it gets tough. I think another thing that makes it difficult is that I've been working on his baby/childhood album, and it takes me back to the easy years. :rolleyes: I miss those times when he wasn't angry at me all the time.

[ReneT]

Plus I'm frustrated because I can't find a plopper that will work for the photo I want to plop! :rofl::rofl: I am within one or 2 layouts of being done with the cruise album and wanted to do a plopper. :(

[carolyn d]

What kind of lizard is he? When I was taking photos of the iguanas in Mexico, I was terrified one was going to start running at me! :eek:

He's a bearded lizard... much smaller than an iguana !

[carolyn d]

Yeah, sooner would work for me. :D I do OK as long as I keep busy, but in those moments (like now) when I'm the only one up, and alone with my thoughts, it gets tough. I think another thing that makes it difficult is that I've been working on his baby/childhood album, and it takes me back to the easy years. :rolleyes: I miss those times when he wasn't angry at me all the time.

I know how you feel iwth having a child angry at you all the time. Buddy and I fought about school starting the second day of KINDERGARTEN ! And the battle lasted up to 2 days before high school graduation. Funny as it sounds, i DID NOT realize what a sweet natured kid he was until he graduated...we had the 800 lb gorilla of school off our backs- finally. And it was only then, ehen he wasn't growling at me , did he actaully let ME see what a sweetie lurked underneath.

[stitchmich]

Be strong, Rene. I know that can't be easy but we're here with support and prayers. :hug::hug::hug:

Chris!! yay for your new lappie!! :yahoo:

[addicted]

Rene, I'm sorry for your troubles! My mom had to do the same thing with my sister. She ended up living in the mountains in a tent for the summer and the forest service kicked her out. :rofl::rofl: But anyway... she is so responsible now and you would have never guessed that would happen in high school! Hopefully it will come soon for you.

Chris, :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: new toys are always fun! I'm deciding between a needed new vacuum :annoyed: and a bunch of other fun stuff I want. What to do??

[debilou]

oh oh oh! Best Buy has a GREAT laptop deal:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9999113600050001&type=product&id=pcmprd113700050001

(Anybody want to guess what I am getting tomorrow.) :D

wow, that's pretty darn cheap...

[ReneT]

Rene, I'm sorry for your troubles! My mom had to do the same thing with my sister. She ended up living in the mountains in a tent for the summer and the forest service kicked her out. :rofl::rofl: But anyway... she is so responsible now and you would have never guessed that would happen in high school! Hopefully it will come soon for you.

Chris, :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: new toys are always fun! I'm deciding between a needed new vacuum :annoyed: and a bunch of other fun stuff I want. What to do??

Vacuums are overrated. :rofl:

[Christine]

Vacuums are overrated. :rofl:

I concur, besides you have 4 kids it isn't like they stay clean anyway. :rofl:

[nekobus]

OMG - no one EVER told me I could vacuum the kids!!! Think of how much time could have been saved if I never waited for it to fall/rub/drip off them before I could vacuum it up.

I concur, besides you have 4 kids it isn't like they stay clean anyway. :rofl:

[Christine]

I got it!!!!!!!!! Working hard to get it all set up before Adobe and would you believe that dh's computer is now not working either?!!!! 2 computers in less than a week. Unbelievable!!!!!!! With his I think it might be a virus and I backed up the crucial stuff just before it died, so if in fact it is a virus, they can wipe the drive if they have to and we will be ok.

[Christine]

OMG - no one EVER told me I could vacuum the kids!!! Think of how much time could have been saved if I never waited for it to fall/rub/drip off them before I could vacuum it up.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: the carpets Neaker, the carpets!!!

[idtwinmom]

I know how you feel iwth having a child angry at you all the time. Buddy and I fought about school starting the second day of KINDERGARTEN ! And the battle lasted up to 2 days before high school graduation. Funny as it sounds, i DID NOT realize what a sweet natured kid he was until he graduated...we had the 800 lb gorilla of school off our backs- finally. And it was only then, ehen he wasn't growling at me , did he actaully let ME see what a sweetie lurked underneath.

Oh, please! Tell me it won't be that long for me and DS#2. I was shocked at lunch today when he chimed in that he was ready for summer to be over. (I think it's time for you to get here and show them how much fun summer can really be! :lol:)

[idtwinmom]

OMG - no one EVER told me I could vacuum the kids!!! Think of how much time could have been saved if I never waited for it to fall/rub/drip off them before I could vacuum it up.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: the carpets Neaker, the carpets!!!

Awwwww, darn! I was just getting ready to go grab that vacuum and turn it on thru dinner! :rofl::rofl::rofl:

BTW - Chris, congrats on that new lappie. Is it strong enough for PS? At least we know we won't be missing you during Adobe. And sorry to here about the computer woes in you house. I keep praying that old lappie of DH's will last until we can afford a new one for him. I really want him to have the new Macbook Pro. He can run Windows and Mac OS and have a lappie that really does the job for him. But they are spendy and I need one too! Well, I might be able to borrow his from time to time. :lol:

[carolyn d]

Oh, please! Tell me it won't be that long for me and DS#2. there are no guarantees ! Bud is definitely a free spirit who just can't sit in one place for long.. so sitting in a classroom was torture for the poor kid. He is your classic kinetic learner.. hands on..give him something that interests him and he's like a dog with a bone. But if the interest is not there... well let's just say he slept through 4 years of english. ( yes, literally... several of his teachers commented on his snoring ! ) I was shocked at lunch today when he chimed in that he was ready for summer to be over. (I think it's time for you to get here and show them how much fun summer can really be! :lol:)Mine were ususally ready to go back at least for the social stuff if nothing else. when the kids are small, pretty much their entire social circle is in school and all are at the mercy of their parents work schedule/car availablity to transport them . Getting back to school was far more interesting than just hanging around the neighborhood/babysitter/daycare. Once they got cars tho, that changed BIG TIME. Plus, your guys know that they will be in a new school, so they are probably anxious to see how things work, see the kids, and it's FIRST GRADE.. so that is big stuff ! It's nice they are ready to go !

[carolyn d]

do you think the kids would like to learn to play flag football- Carol style?

[addicted]

Oh bummer Chris, that is bad news!!

So, I printed her invites with a 200 dpi and they are FANTASTIC!!! I'm so excited I don't have to worry about that anymore! Well how they will print. I just have to add 1 more thing and then I'm done:):)

[idtwinmom]

do you think the kids would like to learn to play flag football- Carol style?

DS#1 "We would like to learn!" :tup:
DS#2 "We would love to learn!" :party:
DD "Yeah!" :yippee:

[idtwinmom]

Yeah, Heather!!!!! Glad to here that really was the solution. When you posted the problem it was the only thing I could think of.

[carolyn d]

DS#1 "We would like to learn!" :tup:
DS#2 "We would love to learn!" :party:
DD "Yeah!" :yippee:

and how about Mommy... would she be willing to give it a go ??

[ReneT]

Oh bummer Chris, that is bad news!!

So, I printed her invites with a 200 dpi and they are FANTASTIC!!! I'm so excited I don't have to worry about that anymore! Well how they will print. I just have to add 1 more thing and then I'm done:):)

:yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:

[ReneT]

That's crazy Chris, 2 computers in a week! Wow! Glad you got your DH's backed up before it died! :applause:

[idtwinmom]

and how about Mommy... would she be willing to give it a go ??

Mommy will give anything a try that makes her little ones smile, laugh out loud, and make joyful noise. We even have the very best place to play right behind the house.

However, I may reserve some of the action time to get behind the lens of that camera of yours and take a few! Or maybe my own camera so that I know I actually get a few! :lol:

[ReneT]

OK, so today I had to go to Sams, and for some crazy reason I was impulse buying. I don't usually do that, but something got into me today, so I ended up with bulk shaving cream, insect repellent, cookie dough, rice & noodle side dishes, and light bulbs. All I really intended to buy in bulk was razor blades for DH and coffee creamer for the office. Oh well. :D Anyway, I was looking at the books and I saw the book The Dare from the movie Fireproof (which DH and I loved even tho the acting wasn't that great), so I also bought it. I have about 10 unread books in my nightstand right now that I don't have time to read because I"m too busy scrapping, but I thought surely I could find the time each day to read one chapter. Gary and I have a fabulous marriage and I am really blessed, but I figured it couldn't hurt anything to read it and practice what it says and do the journaling. So that's what I'm going to do starting tonight. I am going to do a layout about the experience when it's done. Might be fun. Anyone want to do it at the same time as me? Or has anyone else read the book?

[ReneT]

Debi, where are you? You haven't been on here all day! I'm having Debi withdrawal! :think:

[GrandmaCrys]

Debi, where are you? You haven't been on here all day! I'm having Debi withdrawal! :think:

:doh: :doh: Well, duh, Rene, don't you think she's probably making all those cards she's promised to send out and the treats for SA GTG? :yes: :yippee: :party: :party: :party:

[ReneT]

:doh: :doh: Well, duh, Rene, don't you think she's probably making all those cards she's promised to send out and the treats for SA GTG? :yes: :yippee: :party: :party: :party:

Oh, you could be right! I bet she's busy making homemade goodies for those goodie bags. :yes:

[addicted]

OK, so today I had to go to Sams, and for some crazy reason I was impulse buying. I don't usually do that, but something got into me today, so I ended up with bulk shaving cream, insect repellent, cookie dough, rice & noodle side dishes, and light bulbs. All I really intended to buy in bulk was razor blades for DH and coffee creamer for the office. Oh well. :D Anyway, I was looking at the books and I saw the book The Dare from the movie Fireproof (which DH and I loved even tho the acting wasn't that great), so I also bought it. I have about 10 unread books in my nightstand right now that I don't have time to read because I"m too busy scrapping, but I thought surely I could find the time each day to read one chapter. Gary and I have a fabulous marriage and I am really blessed, but I figured it couldn't hurt anything to read it and practice what it says and do the journaling. So that's what I'm going to do starting tonight. I am going to do a layout about the experience when it's done. Might be fun. Anyone want to do it at the same time as me? Or has anyone else read the book?

I heard about his movie not long ago, maybe I better get it and watch it?! I didn't know there was a book, let us know how it goes.

[carolyn d]

Mommy will give anything a try that makes her little ones smile, laugh out loud, and make joyful noise. We even have the very best place to play right behind the house.OK SOUNDS LIKE A DEAL !! I'll figure out teams... and since this is learning, there is no "scoring" at first. how are you at running ? Any knee problems? Cuz teams may be kids vs adults. (we'll get creamed! and kids will get a hoot outta beating the grownups. )

However, I may reserve some of the action time to get behind the lens of that camera of yours and take a few! Or maybe my own camera so that I know I actually get a few! :lol:and at that poiint, Miss Rai can be on my team that way I can keep an eye on her... if your boys are ANYTHING like mine, they will get rough and hog the ball. .

it's flag football without passing the ball.. just hiking and running. No tackling or pushing. Pulling the flag out of the pocket finishes the play. Except with me, they only need to tag me ( I'm taller and they'd need to stretch and possibly fall against my feet) Special rule in effect: if Miss Rai has the ball, she gets to run for the count of 5 before releasing the hounds. (that will give her more of a chance to get some yardage. ) Four tries to make it to the touchdown zone for the adults... six for the kids. ( note that I have eliminated pass blocking here.. to many face gouges! ) End zone dances are definitely allowed.

[Christine]

OK, so today I had to go to Sams, and for some crazy reason I was impulse buying. I don't usually do that, but something got into me today, so I ended up with bulk shaving cream, insect repellent, cookie dough, rice & noodle side dishes, and light bulbs. All I really intended to buy in bulk was razor blades for DH and coffee creamer for the office. Oh well. :D Anyway, I was looking at the books and I saw the book The Dare from the movie Fireproof (which DH and I loved even tho the acting wasn't that great), so I also bought it. I have about 10 unread books in my nightstand right now that I don't have time to read because I"m too busy scrapping, but I thought surely I could find the time each day to read one chapter. Gary and I have a fabulous marriage and I am really blessed, but I figured it couldn't hurt anything to read it and practice what it says and do the journaling. So that's what I'm going to do starting tonight. I am going to do a layout about the experience when it's done. Might be fun. Anyone want to do it at the same time as me? Or has anyone else read the book?

ok so confused, is the book "the dare"? and is it a story or a help your marriage kind of book? :think::think::think: I am always up for something new to read. My library card gets a BIG work out!

[Christine]

yay heather about your invites, that is most excellent and Caro sounds like I would be up for that kind of football :D come here I will play with you too!

[ReneT]

It's called The Love Dare and it's "a 40-day challenge for husbands and wives to understand and practice unconditional love". It's what Kirk Cameron was reading and doing in the movie. The first chapter is about patience. There's a few pages to read, a scripture that goes with the chapter - in this case, Ephesians4:2, and then an area to journal how the day went.

[idtwinmom]

yay heather about your invites, that is most excellent and Caro sounds like I would be up for that kind of football :D come here I will play with you too!

Well, you could have come here and then we all could have played together.

007: Watch what you say to Carolyn, she might just take you up on it! :lol::lol::lol:

[idtwinmom]

It's called The Love Dare and it's "a 40-day challenge for husbands and wives to understand and practice unconditional love". It's what Kirk Cameron was reading and doing in the movie. The first chapter is about patience. There's a few pages to read, a scripture that goes with the chapter - in this case, Ephesians4:2, and then an area to journal how the day went.

Sounds like a fab book. But I doubt I could get DH to do it. I can't even get him (OK, so I haven't found the right way to say it) to get back to studying and looking for a better job. He gets so short sighted!

[ReneT]

Sounds like a fab book. But I doubt I could get DH to do it. I can't even get him (OK, so I haven't found the right way to say it) to get back to studying and looking for a better job. He gets so short sighted!

I'm doing it by myself, you don't have to do it as a couple, although you can. I read the first chapter today while sitting at the dentist office. I told Gary I was doing it and he said "You don't need to be a better wife. You're already a great wife." Awww......I just love him to pieces! :love3:

I have 2 really small cavities and apparently my teeth are worn down due to grinding them at night, so I have to have a night guard made and wear it at night. I'm waiting to have all this done until after our Florida trip. I don't sleep as it is, I can't imagaine how hard it's going to be to get used to sleeping with a guard in my mouth. :( But I guess that's better than having no teeth left when I'm older. :rolleyes:

Then I had to take one of my doggies to the vet. She's drinking excessively, and just keeps getting fatter even though she's on weight control food. So the vet did some blood tests and her biliruben in high, and lots of other things with her blood work were out of wack. So he's afraid it's a liver issue (either hepatititis or cancer). I have to take her back in a week and leave her all day and he will repeat the blood work and then if the biliruben is still high he will do a scan of her liver and take it from there. She was abused before I got her about 6 or 7 years ago, and she is just the sweetest, most loving baby. I am praying it was just a werid fluke that her blood work was messed up. He said it might be, that's why he's going to repeat it in a week before doing anything else.

So that's been my day. I'm waiting for Gary to get home. He's going to take me out to "Prairie Dog Town" to practice with my camera.

[idtwinmom]

You are certainly married to a sweetie!

You may find you sleep better once you get and are used to the guard. The teeth grinding may actually be hurting your sleep more than the guard will. (a former husband of mine was bad at that! Kept both of us awake sometimes!)

Well, I'm sitting here working hard. I've put up the ad for the child care, but forgot to get the business license. Will have to have DH pick that up tomorrow. And I need all these forms to create. And all I want to do is play with my new blog! Only one post so far, but sure hope you guys will come visit me at: ScrapsOfAlaska.blogger.com.

[stitchmich]

I'm doing it by myself, you don't have to do it as a couple, although you can. I read the first chapter today while sitting at the dentist office. I told Gary I was doing it and he said "You don't need to be a better wife. You're already a great wife." Awww......I just love him to pieces! :love3:

I have 2 really small cavities and apparently my teeth are worn down due to grinding them at night, so I have to have a night guard made and wear it at night. I'm waiting to have all this done until after our Florida trip. I don't sleep as it is, I can't imagaine how hard it's going to be to get used to sleeping with a guard in my mouth. :( But I guess that's better than having no teeth left when I'm older. :rolleyes:

Then I had to take one of my doggies to the vet. She's drinking excessively, and just keeps getting fatter even though she's on weight control food. So the vet did some blood tests and her biliruben in high, and lots of other things with her blood work were out of wack. So he's afraid it's a liver issue (either hepatititis or cancer). I have to take her back in a week and leave her all day and he will repeat the blood work and then if the biliruben is still high he will do a scan of her liver and take it from there. She was abused before I got her about 6 or 7 years ago, and she is just the sweetest, most loving baby. I am praying it was just a werid fluke that her blood work was messed up. He said it might be, that's why he's going to repeat it in a week before doing anything else.

So that's been my day. I'm waiting for Gary to get home. He's going to take me out to "Prairie Dog Town" to practice with my camera.

I'm sorry about your dog, Rene. I hope it's nothing serious and the next visit to the vet goes better.

You do have a sweet hubby. I have heard of that book too but my thought was the same as Lisa's... my DH wouldn't do it with me. I might check it out now knowing it's something I could do on my own.

I used to be a teeth grinder. I don't think I still am. My DS grinds BAD! Good luck with the cavities and the night guard.

"Prairie Dog Town"??? :p

[stitchmich]

You are certainly married to a sweetie!

You may find you sleep better once you get and are used to the guard. The teeth grinding may actually be hurting your sleep more than the guard will. (a former husband of mine was bad at that! Kept both of us awake sometimes!)

Well, I'm sitting here working hard. I've put up the ad for the child care, but forgot to get the business license. Will have to have DH pick that up tomorrow. And I need all these forms to create. And all I want to do is play with my new blog! Only one post so far, but sure hope you guys will come visit me at: ScrapsOfAlaska.blogger.com.

Good luck with the business, Lisa. How many kids are you hoping to take?
I will check your blog!! :tup:

[GrandmaCrys]

Rene, what a day! :hug: :hug: Hope your pooch ends up OK! You DO have a sweetie for a DH! :yes: :yes:

My DH wouldn't even read a book about fishing and that's his passion...so.................:annoyed:

Lisa, I so hope you have success in setting up your business! Sorry, I'm just not a blog-follower. I might become one when I discover two so-far unknown hours in the day. :lol: :lol:

Stitchie, I wonder if a person actually does *outgrow* grinding their teeth. My sister was horrid about that when growing up.

Leaving in the morning for the grandkids, and won't be back till sometime Saturday. Carry on without me! :)

Wonder where debilou is? :confused:

[idtwinmom]

Rene - I did mean to mention that I really know what you are going through with your 4 legged baby. Since the whole $800 mouth surgery on ours we have been trying to discover why his kidney values are wrong. We have spent almost $100 more in tests and they want to do more (at a cost of $275 plus). And we still have major mouth work to do on the other dog. I'm really quite concerned, but he seems to have no symptoms at all. He doesn't even ask to go outside all that much.

I gave you all the wrong blog address. It's scrapsofalaska.blogspot.com. I will get there! :lol: Geez, I used to be a web designer and it still took over an hour to get the search box at the top! Now I can finish updating my Flair and siggie so that there is a permanent link!

Chris, got a question for you.
One of the guys that works with DH sent home some arthritis cream. He meant it for DH thinking his "pain" was his back not his surgery. Any way, I'm wondering if I would be able to use this stuff, but have been told that with my allergies even some topicals are not good for me. I am allergic to Aspirin and was told many years ago that Ibuprofin could be very dangerous (my heart rate skyrockets with just a little aspirin). The active ingredient in this stuff is Capsicum Oleoresin containing Capsaicin 0.025%. Would this be risky? Thanks in advance!

[ReneT]

I think Debi might be working on her Trendsetters layout. Maybe that's why we haven't heard from her. I usually get emails or PM's every day, but haven't heard from her today, so my thinking is that she's busy on that.

It cost $179 today for the doggie blood tests, and will be the same next week, if that's all they do. Not sure how much the liver scans will be if they have to do those. She's 9 years old almost, so wasn't really expecting to be having something so serious at this age. Since Drew left home, my dogs have really become my babies, so I will just be devastated if something happens to her. She would be OK without the other dog, but my other dog WON'T be OK without her. I'd probably have to get another puppy to keep the other one company - not that I would mind that, but I'm just hoping she will be OK and I don't have to deal with anything bad.

I had wondered a couple of times if I was grinding my teeth at night recently because I would wake up with one side of my tongue really sore like I had bitten it. I think it must be stress, because I didn't used to do that.

Michelle, Prairie Dog Town is an area at one of our older local parks that a guy set up and financed a long time ago until his death in 1969 when he became concerned about the possible extinction on the prairie dogs. It's fenced in with a low fence and some kind of barrier underground to try to keep them in. It used to be really nice and the prairie dogs were so tame they would eat out of your hand, but I guess the parks dept doesn't take care of it as well any more and there aren't as many prairie dogs as there used to be. They also are scared of people now. I got a few pics, but they wouldn't let me get very close to them. They were scared and ran into their holes, so I had to settle for zooming in as close as I could.

[carolyn d]

I'm doing it by myself, you don't have to do it as a couple, although you can. I read the first chapter today while sitting at the dentist office. I told Gary I was doing it and he said "You don't need to be a better wife. You're already a great wife." Awww......I just love him to pieces! :love3: can you clone him?

I have 2 really small cavities and apparently my teeth are worn down due to grinding them at night, so I have to have a night guard made and wear it at night. I'm waiting to have all this done until after our Florida trip. I don't sleep as it is, I can't imagaine how hard it's going to be to get used to sleeping with a guard in my mouth. :( But I guess that's better than having no teeth left when I'm older. :rolleyes:Night grinding, bruxism, is a stress symptom. Grinding tends to be cyclical. Everyone has stress at a level to which the body is accustomed. Then life throws thngs at you.. some big things, some small.. The big ones we know about, but the small things are there too: just wallowing around your brain. At night, the mind tends to free roam and those little things of which you are not really aware add to the stress level. And in your case, you grind your teeth. After a while the stress(es) will either resolve themselves OR your body accomadates to the new level of stress- and it becomes your "regular" stress level. At either of these times, the grinding will dissapate or disappear. Kids do it alot, but in most cases (but not all) is related to the eruption of the permanent teeth.

The motion of grinding is atypical- meaning your are using your teeth in a biting pattern not considered normal and functional. Most grinders have a pivot point and then "slide" the teeth in a specific direction. ( that's the noise you hear when someone is grinding.) The wear patterns caused by this are very specific to grinding. The enamel of the teeth will look similar to cut marble, small "dots" may appear on the tops of the molars where the points of the opposing teeth are wearing through. Fillings can break due to the exteme wear as well.

The biting pressure on the back teeth (molars) is measured in TONS per square inch, so you can only imagine the pressure put to bear on these teeth.

Symptoms of night grinding can include sore jaws around the area of the TMJ located in front of the ear, headaches upon waking, sore tongue, neck and upper back stiffness.

A night guard is generally pretty lightweight and takes about 2 weeks to get used to wearing. It prevents further wear on the tooth/filling surfaces. In some cases, it interfers enough with the habit so that you no longer derive the same unconscious "satisfaction" from it and the habit ceases. ( but this is pretty rare) . As I had mentioned before, most people find themselves stopping and starting at various times for seemingly no apparent reason.

I grind as well. I started October 8, 1998- the day my daughter got her license! And I've ground my way through drivers' ed with 2 more ! I have also ground my way through 3 nightguards ! Luckily, I can make them myself !

Then I had to take one of my doggies to the vet. She's drinking excessively, and just keeps getting fatter even though she's on weight control food. So the vet did some blood tests and her biliruben in high, and lots of other things with her blood work were out of wack. So he's afraid it's a liver issue (either hepatititis or cancer). I have to take her back in a week and leave her all day and he will repeat the blood work and then if the biliruben is still high he will do a scan of her liver and take it from there. She was abused before I got her about 6 or 7 years ago, and she is just the sweetest, most loving baby. I am praying it was just a werid fluke that her blood work was messed up. He said it might be, that's why he's going to repeat it in a week before doing anything else.

So that's been my day. I'm waiting for Gary to get home. He's going to take me out to "Prairie Dog Town" to practice with my camera.did the vet say anything about the kidneys? When a similar thing happened to my cat, it was her kidneys shutting down due to exteme old age- she was 20. I hope the poor little thing starts to feel better.

[ReneT]

did the vet say anything about the kidneys? When a similar thing happened to my cat, it was her kidneys shutting down due to exteme old age- she was 20. I hope the poor little thing starts to feel better.

Wow, thanks for all that info! I didn't realize the grinding could cause back and neck problems! Maybe that's what's wrong with my shoulders instead of too much chatting and scrapping! :rofl::rofl:

He said her kidney function seemed fine. She was dehydrated, which is weird since she's drinking so much!

[carolyn d]

Rene, what a day! :hug: :hug: Hope your pooch ends up OK! You DO have a sweetie for a DH! :yes: :yes:

My DH wouldn't even read a book about fishing and that's his passion...so.................:annoyed:

Lisa, I so hope you have success in setting up your business! Sorry, I'm just not a blog-follower. I might become one when I discover two so-far unknown hours in the day. :lol: :lol:

Stitchie, I wonder if a person actually does *outgrow* grinding their teeth. My sister was horrid about that when growing up.

Leaving in the morning for the grandkids, and won't be back till sometime Saturday. Carry on without me! :)


Wonder where debilou is? :confused:

Have sooooooooooooooo much fun with the grands ! Play. Laugh. Love it all up.. and we'll be here when you get back..

[carolyn d]

Wow, thanks for all that info! I didn't realize the grinding could cause back and neck problems! Maybe that's what's wrong with my shoulders instead of too much chatting and scrapping! :rofl::rofl:

He said her kidney function seemed fine. She was dehydrated, which is weird since she's drinking so much!

Interesting to have a resident dental hygienist on board, eh?
Just to give you an idea... clench your teeth together really hard and feel how tight the muscles in the back of your neck and upper shoulders are. Now, imagine holding that postion for 6 hours ! Kinda what you are dong when you are grinding.

[stitchmich]

Crys, have LOTS OF FUN with the grand kiddos!!!

Rene, you gotta post me some pictures of prairie dogs... not a creature we see in Carolina. A park sounds interesting.

Wow, Carolyn, you are just full of information! I said before that I don't think I grind anymore, but after reading that I'm thinking I probably do. :lol: I wake up with a sore jaw and sometimes a headache when I'm over stressed. I knew it was a response to my stress, but I thought I was "clenching" my teeth, not "grinding" them. I've probably been keeping DH awake and he doesn't tell me. :D

[ReneT]

Michelle, here's a photo of prairie dogs I took last night. Sorry it's so big again. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I resized it.

http://www.digitalscrapbookplace.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2179&d=1249483267

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[stitchmich]

Great shot Rene!!! They are cute and I LOVE that depth of field you got going!! :tup:

[carolyn d]

Crys, have LOTS OF FUN with the grand kiddos!!!

Rene, you gotta post me some pictures of prairie dogs... not a creature we see in Carolina. A park sounds interesting.

Wow, Carolyn, you are just full of information! I said before that I don't think I grind anymore, but after reading that I'm thinking I probably do. :lol: I wake up with a sore jaw and sometimes a headache when I'm over stressed. I knew it was a response to my stress, but I thought I was "clenching" my teeth, not "grinding" them. I've probably been keeping DH awake and he doesn't tell me. :D


GRINDNG is almost exclusively done at night and most people are unaware of doing it until someone tells them. CLENCHING is MOST OFTEN done during the waking hours but can also be a nightime thing... and the symptoms are basically exactly the same with the exclusion of the wear patterns. GRINDING ALWAYS SHOWS WEAR MARKS ON THE TEETH WHILE CLENCHING TYPICALLY DOES NOT.

YEAH, I'm just a font of trivia. LOL... but it IS my job!

[carolyn d]

those prarie dogs are wicked cute ! Great shot !

[stitchmich]

GRINDNG is almost exclusively done at night and most people are unaware of doing it until someone tells them. CLENCHING is MOST OFTEN done during the waking hours but can also be a nightime thing... and the symptoms are basically exactly the same with the exclusion of the wear patterns. GRINDING ALWAYS SHOWS WEAR MARKS ON THE TEETH WHILE CLENCHING TYPICALLY DOES NOT.

YEAH, I'm just a font of trivia. LOL... but it IS my job!

when I was a kid and a grinder, my sister that shared a bedroom with me would throw things at me to make me shutup. My DH has never thrown anything at me so maybe I just clench now. :rofl::rofl::rofl: I am having a busy stressful day today and I realized a little while ago that I was clenching. I probably only became aware of it because of this conversation. :p

[addicted]

I hope I don't grind after all that info! I think I'm good though. :)

Rene, which lense did you use for the photo? Was it the new one you bought? The pic looks so good.

We are half way through swimming lessons and 2nd dd is suppose to dive of the low diing board and won't do it. They taught them to sit, kneel & stand off the edge of the pool and then they can choose to stand or kneel on the board and she won't. So I bribed her to do it and so for 2 days now she leaves crying because she won't dive and so she won't get her toy! I should have never opened my mouth. Today I was in the pool trying to get her to go, but no way. She wants to but is scared of flipping under the water.
This morning my phone phone rings and it's a local grocery store calling saying that my dh won a grill. So I go pick it up and it's a portable grill that we just bought 2 weeks ago to take camping. :lol: So my mom wants to buy this one since we already have one. :yahoo: :yahoo:

[addicted]

Oh and my mom is getting a great deal :) I'm not charging her what I paid!!

[ReneT]

I hope I don't grind after all that info! I think I'm good though. :)

Rene, which lense did you use for the photo? Was it the new one you bought? The pic looks so good.

We are half way through swimming lessons and 2nd dd is suppose to dive of the low diing board and won't do it. They taught them to sit, kneel & stand off the edge of the pool and then they can choose to stand or kneel on the board and she won't. So I bribed her to do it and so for 2 days now she leaves crying because she won't dive and so she won't get her toy! I should have never opened my mouth. Today I was in the pool trying to get her to go, but no way. She wants to but is scared of flipping under the water.
This morning my phone phone rings and it's a local grocery store calling saying that my dh won a grill. So I go pick it up and it's a portable grill that we just bought 2 weeks ago to take camping. :lol: So my mom wants to buy this one since we already have one. :yahoo: :yahoo:

Yes, I took it with the Tokina f/2.8 lens. I really like the lens, I just wish it had more zoom to it.

[idtwinmom]

Great shot Rene!!! They are cute and I LOVE that depth of field you got going!! :tup:
I agree, that is an amazing photo! You should be very proud because the results are there, GF! And what cute little animals.

I hope I don't grind after all that info! I think I'm good though. :)

Rene, which lense did you use for the photo? Was it the new one you bought? The pic looks so good.

We are half way through swimming lessons and 2nd dd is suppose to dive of the low diing board and won't do it. They taught them to sit, kneel & stand off the edge of the pool and then they can choose to stand or kneel on the board and she won't. So I bribed her to do it and so for 2 days now she leaves crying because she won't dive and so she won't get her toy! I should have never opened my mouth. Today I was in the pool trying to get her to go, but no way. She wants to but is scared of flipping under the water.
This morning my phone phone rings and it's a local grocery store calling saying that my dh won a grill. So I go pick it up and it's a portable grill that we just bought 2 weeks ago to take camping. :lol: So my mom wants to buy this one since we already have one. :yahoo: :yahoo:

Oh, the poor dear. My boys are very afraid of getting their faces wet. We gave them swim lessons last year, but I didn't push a second set. Although I really would love for them to know how to actually swim, it's not worth the trauma. I don't think I would try a bribe with them, it would only lead to headaches for me and more stress for them. I hope you find a way to comfort her.

[stitchmich]

We are half way through swimming lessons and 2nd dd is suppose to dive of the low diing board and won't do it. They taught them to sit, kneel & stand off the edge of the pool and then they can choose to stand or kneel on the board and she won't. So I bribed her to do it and so for 2 days now she leaves crying because she won't dive and so she won't get her toy! I should have never opened my mouth. Today I was in the pool trying to get her to go, but no way. She wants to but is scared of flipping under the water.
This morning my phone phone rings and it's a local grocery store calling saying that my dh won a grill. So I go pick it up and it's a portable grill that we just bought 2 weeks ago to take camping. :lol: So my mom wants to buy this one since we already have one. :yahoo: :yahoo:


awww, i'm sorry your DD is having a tough time. Will they let you go off the board with her? Or maybe she could go off first with a noodle. That might be enough to get her over the fear. I hope she can get up her nerve to do it. When my DS was little he would swim half way across the pool, but panicked when he knew he was over deeper (4ft) water. I bribed and cajoled and finally I had him swim halfway, turn around and swim the other half way back. So he knew he could go 25yd without stopping. That was enough to boost his confidence, and he took off and swam the whole 25yd. Then I had to buy him the toy I promised. :rolleyes: He's been swimming on the swim team ever since, btw.

[ReneT]

I hope I don't grind after all that info! I think I'm good though. :)

Rene, which lense did you use for the photo? Was it the new one you bought? The pic looks so good.

We are half way through swimming lessons and 2nd dd is suppose to dive of the low diing board and won't do it. They taught them to sit, kneel & stand off the edge of the pool and then they can choose to stand or kneel on the board and she won't. So I bribed her to do it and so for 2 days now she leaves crying because she won't dive and so she won't get her toy! I should have never opened my mouth. Today I was in the pool trying to get her to go, but no way. She wants to but is scared of flipping under the water.
This morning my phone phone rings and it's a local grocery store calling saying that my dh won a grill. So I go pick it up and it's a portable grill that we just bought 2 weeks ago to take camping. :lol: So my mom wants to buy this one since we already have one. :yahoo: :yahoo:


Since you're only 1/2 way through the lessons, do you think with some more time she will be able to do it? Maybe she'll decide she wants the toy so bad she'll just go for it.

[Christine]

oh gosh I wish I had time to catch up with you all, but getting ready to go to Adobe and I have soooooooo much to do! The double death of two of our three computers really threw a monkey wrench into the plans. Hope you are all having fun though :)

[Christine]

oh yeah and get your buns over and leave suggestions for Little Lucy in the BAG if you haven't already done that :)

[addicted]

So dd LOVES the water and swimming and does jump off the diving board, but won't dive! She said she'll do it tomorrow, but I'm not sure she will because she said that yesterday and she didn't today. So I guess we'll just see what happens. I have always been able to bribe her, and she has always tried everything, but I can see now, that if she is really scared about something, DON'T bribe her. I feel bad, but can't take it back now, she really wants that elephant. Maybe I'll have to think of some other way she can earn it. The joys of learning about parenting.

[stitchmich]

So dd LOVES the water and swimming and does jump off the diving board, but won't dive! She said she'll do it tomorrow, but I'm not sure she will because she said that yesterday and she didn't today. So I guess we'll just see what happens. I have always been able to bribe her, and she has always tried everything, but I can see now, that if she is really scared about something, DON'T bribe her. I feel bad, but can't take it back now, she really wants that elephant. Maybe I'll have to think of some other way she can earn it. The joys of learning about parenting.

oh! it's the head first part that she's having trouble with. Sorry, I didn't catch that before. Ifshe loves the water, she'll get around to diving when she's ready. That's a great idea to give her another way to earn the elephant. This story is sounding like a great scrapbook page! :D

[idtwinmom]

Carolyn, just under 27 hours to go! Are you excited yet? I am!!!!!!!!!
:yippee::party::yippee::party::yippee::party:

[carolyn d]

Carolyn, just under 27 hours to go! Are you excited yet? I am!!!!!!!!!
:yippee::party::yippee::party::yippee::party:

WELL AS OF THIS WRITING, I'LL BE IN TF GREEN AIRPORT CHECKING IN, GETTING FRISKED, XRAYED AND WAVED THROUGHT WHILE BAREFOOT IN JUST 12 HOURS !

IF I were any more excited, I'd be sitting in a puddle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[carolyn d]

oh gosh I wish I had time to catch up with you all, but getting ready to go to Adobe and I have soooooooo much to do! The double death of two of our three computers really threw a monkey wrench into the plans. Hope you are all having fun though :)
what the HECK is it with you and computers?? Is there voo doo going on in your house or what??? That so bites the big onion ! Do you have a lappie to go to Adobe ?

If you see a long arm waving in the air, that's me flying by !

[carolyn d]

Yes, I took it with the Tokina f/2.8 lens. I really like the lens, I just wish it had more zoom to it.
there are other lenses with more reach, but to get them in a fixed aperture lens is wickedly expensive. Try looking at a vairalbe aperture lens along the lines of a 70-300 or 80-400. those will probably be f/4-5.6, or something along those lines.

Longer lenses like this have some weight to them, and becase the lens aperture varies when you zoom in and out, the lens will NOT focus as quickly in lower light situations..and you may notice it "hunting" a bit more. And then you may find yourself wanting a decent tripod.. which you may need to help get those shots tack sharp.. Takes a bit to handhold the longer lenses.. and because it's not recommended to shoot handheld any slower than the inverse of the longest focal distance ( 1/300, 1/400 respectively) you will either need to bump up your iso to maintain that faster shutter speed OR use a tripod.

[idtwinmom]

Yeah, if you read back a page or two, she bought the one from Best Buy and was getting it all ready to go! I'm kinda jealous, but I think I want my camera more! :lol: Guess that makes me more jealous of Rene then of Chris right now!

[carolyn d]

Yeah, if you read back a page or two, she bought the one from Best Buy and was getting it all ready to go! I'm kinda jealous, but I think I want my camera more! :lol: Guess that makes me more jealous of Rene then of Chris right now!


ahhhhhhhhhh i musta missed the post where she said she actually BOUGHT it.. i was under the impression she was just checking it out ! DOH.. MY BAD !

[idtwinmom]

Nah! Just busy lately! How's the kiddos doing?

[idtwinmom]

Hey, in 24 hours I will be at the airport! You are scheduled to land just about 12 minutes later.

Geesh! I'm having trouble typing with this bandaid on my finger! :cry:

[carolyn d]

Nah! Just busy lately! How's the kiddos doing?ALL ARE STILL ALIVE because I have allowed it . :rofl::rofl::rofl: Went to see Tim's new apartment tonight and brought him a tool kit ( cordless screwgun, large and small hammer, adjustable wrench, regular and needle nosed pliers, retracting tape measure..their housewarming gift.

he's so funny.. he's very proud that he bought a new vacuum cleaner, a mirror and an end table set. His roomie made dinner for him and he said he left work a bit early so he could go home and eat.

He is experiencing "nesting" for the first time.. he's too cute, but don't tell him I said that .:lol::lol:

[idtwinmom]

LOL, this roomie is male? Which one is Tim' GF? Rachael?

[carolyn d]

Hey, in 24 hours I will be at the airport! You are scheduled to land just about 12 minutes later.

Geesh! I'm having trouble typing with this bandaid on my finger! :cry:how did you get wounded?

[idtwinmom]

Not sure, all I did was a little vacuuming and shampooed carpets this morning. (The movers made a real mess of this light beige carpet and I just couldn't take it any more!!!!!)

[carolyn d]

LOL, this roomie is male? Which one is Tim' GF? Rachael?

Buddy's GF is Rachael.
Tim's roomie is Santana (female). they've been friends since about 7th grade. they have been joined at the hip for a while now, so when they got an appartment, I ASSUMED it was a couple's thing... turns out it's not.. 2 separate rooms etc.

ahhhhhhhhhhh who the heck knows anymore... ???????????????

[carolyn d]

Not sure, all I did was a little vacuuming and shampooed carpets this morning. (The movers made a real mess of this light beige carpet and I just couldn't take it any more!!!!!)

serves you right for doing the unmentionable H word. :eek::eek::eek:

[carolyn d]

well, I'm off to bed.. it's 130 am here and my alarm is gonna ring faster than i can imagine... Just one fast market trip in the morning and I'll be off to the races.

See ya tomorrow !

[idtwinmom]

serves you right for doing the unmentionable H word. :eek::eek::eek:

:rofl: Yes, I know, I should have stuck to blogging. Much more fun and a lot less hard on the old bod! (up to a point that is, even a good office chair can hurt after a while!) :rofl:

BTW - thanks for signing up to "follow" my blog!

[idtwinmom]

Nighty, night!!!!!!!!!

[carolyn d]

LOVE your new avatar by the way.... very cute !

[carolyn d]

OK, here's the scoop of a deranged woman. I was up before the alarm. showered, dressed, bed stripped and remade ( anticipation of "fresh sheet night" when I return from Lisa's), laundry in the wash, kitchen cleaned ( that won't last long!) last minute items in suitcase ( hair drier), itinerary emails sent to kids, instruction "manual" for the week written and left on Robin's bureau ( including emergency money, contact phone numbers at Lisa's and BJ's card) .. lets' see, anything ELSE??? OMG you'd think I was leaving teenagers for a month! The last thing will be packing the lappie into the backpack....and it's only 815 am

[ReneT]

there are other lenses with more reach, but to get them in a fixed aperture lens is wickedly expensive. Try looking at a vairalbe aperture lens along the lines of a 70-300 or 80-400. those will probably be f/4-5.6, or something along those lines.

Longer lenses like this have some weight to them, and becase the lens aperture varies when you zoom in and out, the lens will NOT focus as quickly in lower light situations..and you may notice it "hunting" a bit more. And then you may find yourself wanting a decent tripod.. which you may need to help get those shots tack sharp.. Takes a bit to handhold the longer lenses.. and because it's not recommended to shoot handheld any slower than the inverse of the longest focal distance ( 1/300, 1/400 respectively) you will either need to bump up your iso to maintain that faster shutter speed OR use a tripod.

Maybe this is going to sound like a really dumb question, and if it does, sorry in advance, but why do they call it a f/2.8 lens, when most of the time it seems to shoot in f/5.6?

I'm going to ask for a good tripod for Christmas, because the only one I have is the gorillapod I bought for the P&S so I could pack it easily in my luggage when we went on the cruise (then I never used it). I did use it for firework shots on 4th of July before I got the new camera.

[ReneT]

serves you right for doing the unmentionable H word. :eek::eek::eek:

I agree! It's dangerous and none of us should do it for fear of injuring our scrapping hands. :rofl:

[ReneT]

OK, here's the scoop of a deranged woman. I was up before the alarm. showered, dressed, bed stripped and remade ( anticipation of "fresh sheet night" when I return from Lisa's), laundry in the wash, kitchen cleaned ( that won't last long!) last minute items in suitcase ( hair drier), itinerary emails sent to kids, instruction "manual" for the week written and left on Robin's bureau ( including emergency money, contact phone numbers at Lisa's and BJ's card) .. lets' see, anything ELSE??? OMG you'd think I was leaving teenagers for a month! The last thing will be packing the lappie into the backpack....and it's only 815 am

Don't you just LOVE vacation anticipation?!?!?!

[debilou]

Maybe this is going to sound like a really dumb question, and if it does, sorry in advance, but why do they call it a f/2.8 lens, when most of the time it seems to shoot in f/5.6?

I'm going to ask for a good tripod for Christmas, because the only one I have is the gorillapod I bought for the P&S so I could pack it easily in my luggage when we went on the cruise (then I never used it). I did use it for firework shots on 4th of July before I got the new camera.

I love my Gorilla pod... it's so cute and handy!

[ReneT]

I love my Gorilla pod... it's so cute and handy!

I liked it too, but it won't hold that Tokina lens. It works great for the P&S.

[ReneT]

YAY DEBI'S BACK!:yippee:

[addicted]

I'll catch up later, going out the door to take ds to the dentist and do school shopping, but I need some help! I signed up to be in charge of DET bootcamp for this Sat. (don't have a clue what I was thinking :doh:) what can I do? They have done titles and rule of thirds. I was thinking of white space, but not sure I want to. Any other ideas? I really need some, thanks!!

[idtwinmom]

Oh, she is sooooooo funny!

Well, so far I've had a busy morning. The phone and cable installer turned into "installers"! One called, I'll be there in...ding, dong! And the other showed up without calling while I was in the middle of dealing with a problem with the first. The phone set up is all wrong. It works, I have a phone plugged into it, but it wasn't hooked up the way we were informed. So, here I am with just one phone for a 3 story house!!!!! And it's on the second floor! Thank goodness it's cordless and I spend more time in my bedroom than anywhere else. I'm also trying to get the laundry done (don't want to have to run shorts while Carolyn is here) and do the last minute cleaning of bathrooms and stuff.

But, TV works, Internet works (yeah! no more fighting that super slow freebie!) and I do have both my cell and a house phone that works! Sort of!

Now to get lunch and see if I can't get something actually done around here!

[idtwinmom]

I'll catch up later, going out the door to take ds to the dentist and do school shopping, but I need some help! I signed up to be in charge of DET bootcamp for this Sat. (don't have a clue what I was thinking :doh:) what can I do? They have done titles and rule of thirds. I was thinking of white space, but not sure I want to. Any other ideas? I really need some, thanks!!

How about Elements! I've thought that I could really use more work on how many, and where elements go. That would be a good DET bootcamp!

[ReneT]

I'll catch up later, going out the door to take ds to the dentist and do school shopping, but I need some help! I signed up to be in charge of DET bootcamp for this Sat. (don't have a clue what I was thinking :doh:) what can I do? They have done titles and rule of thirds. I was thinking of white space, but not sure I want to. Any other ideas? I really need some, thanks!!

Also, what about overlays: recoloring, different blend modes, etc.

[idtwinmom]

Hey guys, I did this LO yesterday and since it doesn't have a challenge I thought you might be able to give me some love! It's another one for my Mom's book:

July, 2009
http://www.digitalscrapbookplace.com/gallery/data/500/thumbs/July-2009.jpg (http://www.digitalscrapbookplace.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=328783&ppuser=90601)

[Christine]

oh my heck I think I am finally ready! :D Good thing too cuz I have to get up in 5 hours. LOL I don't know what kind of internet service we will have, so see ya when I see ya! :hug:

[carolyn d]

Maybe this is going to sound like a really dumb question, and if it does, sorry in advance, but why do they call it a f/2.8 lens, when most of the time it seems to shoot in f/5.6?

I'm going to ask for a good tripod for Christmas, because the only one I have is the gorillapod I bought for the P&S so I could pack it easily in my luggage when we went on the cruise (then I never used it). I did use it for firework shots on 4th of July before I got the new camera.the lens itself has a constant fixed aperture of 2.8 You may have your CAMERA set to f/5.6. if you have your camera set on AUTO everything, the camera is automatically asjusting the aperture, shutter speed and iso to give you the best exposure it can given the lighting conditions.

The f/2.8 of the LENS allows max light into the lens which makes it focus faster.

[addicted]

Thanks for the bootcamp ideas! I went and looked at a thread that gave me some more ideas about photo pop, journaling and a couple other things. I like all the ideas, now just to decide what I think I can help most with. NOT MUCH!! I'm getting anxiety thinking about starting this up on Sunday. :pray: I know it will be fine, but I always want things to go just right so starting something new gives me stress!

My canlendar has nothing on it for August except swimming lessons, so I keep thinking I am not going to be so busy, but that's not the case. School shopping, church stuff, DET bootcamp :rofl:, dentists, etc keep getting in my way of scrapping! Once someone told me "life never slows down, it just gets busier", I'm starting to believe them. :eek: Maybe in 3 weeks when 3 of my 4 kids will be in school all day. :party: :party: I love my kids, but I am not one of those moms that cry when their kids go to school. I get a lot done when they are gone.

[ReneT]

oh my heck I think I am finally ready! :D Good thing too cuz I have to get up in 5 hours. LOL I don't know what kind of internet service we will have, so see ya when I see ya! :hug:

Have fun and think about us poor guys here who couldn't go! :D

[ReneT]

the lens itself has a constant fixed aperture of 2.8 You may have your CAMERA set to f/5.6. if you have your camera set on AUTO everything, the camera is automatically asjusting the aperture, shutter speed and iso to give you the best exposure it can given the lighting conditions.

The f/2.8 of the LENS allows max light into the lens which makes it focus faster.

Got it, thanks.

[ReneT]

Thanks for the bootcamp ideas! I went and looked at a thread that gave me some more ideas about photo pop, journaling and a couple other things. I like all the ideas, now just to decide what I think I can help most with. NOT MUCH!! I'm getting anxiety thinking about starting this up on Sunday. :pray: I know it will be fine, but I always want things to go just right so starting something new gives me stress!

My canlendar has nothing on it for August except swimming lessons, so I keep thinking I am not going to be so busy, but that's not the case. School shopping, church stuff, DET bootcamp :rofl:, dentists, etc keep getting in my way of scrapping! Once someone told me "life never slows down, it just gets busier", I'm starting to believe them. :eek: Maybe in 3 weeks when 3 of my 4 kids will be in school all day. :party: :party: I love my kids, but I am not one of those moms that cry when their kids go to school. I get a lot done when they are gone.

Hang in there Heather! If there's anything I can do to help you with the DET bootcamp, I will be more than happy to help. Not sure what I could do, but if there is anything, just let me know.

[carolyn d]

well greetings to all from Alaska... my flights were great, BUT my suitcase didn't arrive ! So I sit here looking even more like a bag lady than ususal. IT IS BEAUTIFUL HERE !!!! OMG...

No jet lag this morning.. have already been haunting the airlines and it turns out my luggage arrived on a flight that came in an hour later.... THANK GOODNESS as a lot of my camera equipment is in that bag!!!! Right now I feel as though my hands have been cut off.

Well, off to call Lisa.... she cracked me up last night....held a sign "DSP VIP LIMO" ... what a hoot !

My brain was so fried last night.... accoeding to my time zone, I arrived here at about 1 am...so basically, I pulled an all nighter. But feel far more refreshed this morning as I slep through the night AK time.

Will catch you all later !

[idtwinmom]

well greetings to all from Alaska... my flights were great, BUT my suitcase didn't arrive ! So I sit here looking even more like a bag lady than ususal. IT IS BEAUTIFUL HERE !!!! OMG...

No jet lag this morning.. have already been haunting the airlines and it turns out my luggage arrived on a flight that came in an hour later.... THANK GOODNESS as a lot of my camera equipment is in that bag!!!! Right now I feel as though my hands have been cut off.

Well, off to call Lisa.... she cracked me up last night....held a sign "DSP VIP LIMO" ... what a hoot !

My brain was so fried last night.... accoeding to my time zone, I arrived here at about 1 am...so basically, I pulled an all nighter. But feel far more refreshed this morning as I slep through the night AK time.

Will catch you all later !

You crack me up! :rofl::rofl::rofl:
You didn't look that bad for all the traveling you did, but I'm sure getting your things and a nice hot shower will make you feel even better! Go make that call and the kids and I will come get you!!!!!!!!!

[ReneT]

well greetings to all from Alaska... my flights were great, BUT my suitcase didn't arrive ! So I sit here looking even more like a bag lady than ususal. IT IS BEAUTIFUL HERE !!!! OMG...

No jet lag this morning.. have already been haunting the airlines and it turns out my luggage arrived on a flight that came in an hour later.... THANK GOODNESS as a lot of my camera equipment is in that bag!!!! Right now I feel as though my hands have been cut off.

Well, off to call Lisa.... she cracked me up last night....held a sign "DSP VIP LIMO" ... what a hoot !

My brain was so fried last night.... accoeding to my time zone, I arrived here at about 1 am...so basically, I pulled an all nighter. But feel far more refreshed this morning as I slep through the night AK time.

Will catch you all later !

Have fun!!!! Glad your luggage wasn't lost or on a different plane to Botswana.

[addicted]

Carolyn and Lisa have SO much fun!!! Carolyn, hope you find your luggage soon, that bites!

Rene you are such a sweetheart! I'm deciding between elements or photo pop! What to do???? I'll let you know if I need anything.

Chris I'm so jealous you are at adobe without me. :( Have fun and tell everyone I said "hi" if you read this today!!

[addicted]

Carolyn, I guess I didn't read your post very well, glad you have your luggage :)

[PQ]

well greetings to all from Alaska... my flights were great, BUT my suitcase didn't arrive ! So I sit here looking even more like a bag lady than ususal. IT IS BEAUTIFUL HERE !!!! OMG...

No jet lag this morning.. have already been haunting the airlines and it turns out my luggage arrived on a flight that came in an hour later.... THANK GOODNESS as a lot of my camera equipment is in that bag!!!! Right now I feel as though my hands have been cut off.

Well, off to call Lisa.... she cracked me up last night....held a sign "DSP VIP LIMO" ... what a hoot !

My brain was so fried last night.... accoeding to my time zone, I arrived here at about 1 am...so basically, I pulled an all nighter. But feel far more refreshed this morning as I slep through the night AK time.

Will catch you all later !

Love the DSP VIP LIMO sign! What a hoot! As soon as the excitement kicks in you won't feel jet lagged at all! I am so jealous!

[idtwinmom]

PQ - You could be next! I still think we need to have an Anchorage crop! I would be glad to find a location (as a matter of fact, I think I know the perfect spot!)

[Christine]

HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! Hi from Adobe everyone! We are having fun and meeting lots of people. Barbara (SUVgal) specifically said to say hi!

Lisa and CaroD hope you are having a GREAT time!

Heather how goes the diving? has she been back yet?

[wardlw]

[QUOTE=addicted;718676]Carolyn and Lisa have SO much fun!!! Carolyn, hope you find your luggage soon, that bites!

Rene you are such a sweetheart! I'm deciding between elements or photo pop! What to do???? I'll let you know if I need anything.

Chris I'm so jealous you are at adobe without me. :( Have fun and tell everyone I said "hi" if you read this today!![/QUO


Elements! Elements! Elements! PLEEEEEESE! Photo pop is great too but I don't think elemnets have been done for awhile. I love Det Boot Camp!

Hi Chris have fun!

Lisa and Carolyn D be good and have fun. Is that possible?

[addicted]

No Chris she hasn't done it yet. I'm hoping in the next session she will, but I'm not so sure?!?!

wardlw, that is what I was leaning towards so you made up my mind!! Now just to find a kit. Chris any doantaions?? :rofl: :rofl: We have used the kits in the freebies gallery that have the most elements. Then I was thinking of using this coming weeks IOTW, but then would I change the kit for the next week when the IOTW changes? So much to think about with my poor already fried brain!! :think: :think:

[ReneT]

Hi!

Chris, I hope you are having a blast at the crop.

CaroD and Lisa, I'm betting are having fun!

Heather, don't stress too much! You'll be brilliant.

Not a lot going on here this Saturday. Gary and I went to go look at RV's this morning. We always try to think of something interesting to do on Saturday mornings. We start at Starbucks :D, then go run errands or figure out something to do. We have a small rv, but after having it for 3 years, we can see where there are things about it we would like to change (more counter space in the kitchen, room to walk around the bed, not having to straddle the toilet to look in the mirror to comb your hair or put your makeup on), so we have toyed with the idea of trading ours in on one that is laid out better since they are priced so well right now due to the economy. Don't know if we will, but we like to look.

Then we went over to my DMIL's house and showed her the FINISHED cruise album :yahoo: and Gary looked at her garage door opener to see what we needed to do to fix it.

That's about all that's going on here. Have a great weekend everyone!

[addicted]

not having to straddle the toilet to look in the mirror to comb your hair or put your makeup on

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[stitchmich]

Hey everybody! Chris I hope you're having you're having fun at Adobe. I'm sure you are. And I KNOW Carolyn and Lisa are having a blast!

Rene, RV browsing sounds fun, whether you end up getting a new one or not.

I spent my Saturday morning with DD's Marching Band. They just finished up two intense weeks of Band Camp. This morning they performed for the parents and then we had a picnic. This year I will have two band jobs... First I am the uniform mom. I fitted all the kids for uniforms last week and now have a dozen or so to alter- hems, darts, easy stuff. My second job this year is Historian, which means I am the PICTURE MOM! When that position came open I jumped on it. I mean, is there an easier, more fun job? I don't think so! I probably took more that 700 photos this week. Of course those will get weeded down to 200 or so. We have this scaffolding in front of our practice field and the past two days I climbed up to get aerial shots. I'm a little afraid of heights, but I did okay and got some great shots. :tup:

[stitchmich]

Oh, I forgot to say...

Rene, congrats on the FINISHED CRUISE ALBUM!!! You go girl! What did MIL think? I know it turned out great, because I've kinda already seen it. :lol:

[ReneT]

Hey everybody! Chris I hope you're having you're having fun at Adobe. I'm sure you are. And I KNOW Carolyn and Lisa are having a blast!

Rene, RV browsing sounds fun, whether you end up getting a new one or not.

I spent my Saturday morning with DD's Marching Band. They just finished up two intense weeks of Band Camp. This morning they performed for the parents and then we had a picnic. This year I will have two band jobs... First I am the uniform mom. I fitted all the kids for uniforms last week and now have a dozen or so to alter- hems, darts, easy stuff. My second job this year is Historian, which means I am the PICTURE MOM! When that position came open I jumped on it. I mean, is there an easier, more fun job? I don't think so! I probably took more that 700 photos this week. Of course those will get weeded down to 200 or so. We have this scaffolding in front of our practice field and the past two days I climbed up to get aerial shots. I'm a little afraid of heights, but I did okay and got some great shots. :tup:

Oh how exciting for you Michelle! Great that you can sew. How many kids are in the band? Will you get to travel with them to games, concerts, out of town, etc to take photos?

[ReneT]

Oh, I forgot to say...

Rene, congrats on the FINISHED CRUISE ALBUM!!! You go girl! What did MIL think? I know it turned out great, because I've kinda already seen it. :lol:

She loved it! She likes to look at my scrapbooking, especially my heritage stuff. I think she also likes to see photos of her son having fun. Gary is her oldest of 3 kids, and they've always had a special bond, because for many years when he was growing up, he was kind of the man of the house when there were problems with Gary's dad (his dad finally worked all that out before he passed away, thank goodness).

[stitchmich]

Oh how exciting for you Michelle! Great that you can sew. How many kids are in the band? Will you get to travel with them to games, concerts, out of town, etc to take photos?

I will go where they go! :lol: I'll be at football games, parades, and competitions. We don't go too far out of town. If I can't make it to an event, I'll get someone to take pictures for me. Then at the end of the year I'll be putting together a slide show. That's something new I'll have to learn. Oh and I don't do too much sewing, just the basics.

[ReneT]

I will go where they go! :lol: I'll be at football games, parades, and competitions. We don't go too far out of town. If I can't make it to an event, I'll get someone to take pictures for me. Then at the end of the year I'll be putting together a slide show. That's something new I'll have to learn. Oh and I don't do too much sewing, just the basics.

Well, that's more sewing than I do. My mom bought my sister and me a sewing machine when we were young, but never taught us how to use it. :D So finally it got sold in a garage sale.

I'm excited for you with your new band job. :yahoo::tup::yahoo::tup:

You should do a "One time, at band camp......" layout. :rofl::rofl:

[carolyn d]

Hi all !!!!!

You guys have all been so busy !
Just back from torturing Lisa, Chris and the kids. What a cute crew ! Of courese, I have tons of shots of the kids, BUT I left my memory card and card rader at Lisa's, ( airhead that I am) so can't show you any of them. Hopefully, I 'll remember to bring it back with me tomorrow. Tomorrow, I'm teaching the kids to play flag football. We all have co-ordinating football shirts so we will look like a team. By the time I leave here, all three kids should have some interesting new "outlooks" . I have manhandled the boys to withing an inch of their lives, tho.... I do play rough.

The Alaska Zoo was the schedule for today. Wonderful, wonderful place.

The scenery here is powerful and stunning ! I just can't describe how magnificent. And if I can get my camera off the kids I hope to have something worthwhile to show.I am just NOT a landscape photographer !

Off to bed now.. have a great day/night ( i still am not sure what time it really is anymore) ...

[addicted]

Carolyn, sounds like you are having a blast! I need to go to Alaska somethime, that's the only western state I haven't been to.

Stitch, historian sounds like a lot of fun! And people who sew amaze me, because I can't do it. My mom sewed and I've taken classes, but I guess it's not for me.

So I started the boot camp thread (http://www.digitalscrapbookplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39611), if you want to come have fun, go check it out!

Everyone have a great day, I'm off to get 6 of us (even dh if we want to be on time :rofl:) ready for church.

[wardlw]

The Boot Camp thread looks great. I just did a layout using the "Heureux" kit. http://www.digitalscrapbookplace.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=329020&ppuser=48921

Love it and can't wait to get started on another LO using it. Gotta go find photos to use. Thanks for doing elements.

Carolyn Alaska sounds Fantastic. Glad you are enjoying Lisa's family. Kids are wonderful aren't they. Too bad they have to grow up!

[idtwinmom]

Hi all! I see Carolyn filled you in! We are having so much fun and the kids have already complained that "Miss Carolyn" isn't here and the game has to wait. Yes, she left her card reader and the 300+ photos we have taken (yep, me and the kids have played with her Nikon D300 pro camera) with it! Guess she should bring her laptop and spend a minute copying huh! :lol:

She did leave out that the weather is cooperating and the rain we've had has been at night and that Friday, we yakked so much it was nearly midnight before I took her back to her room! The daylight at 11PM is really throwing her a curve! And last night at 10 the sun was still above the horizon and bright orange and yellows stripes. Wished I had the camera in hand at that moment! We will be working on her landscape photo's soon!

Well, off to pay bills so that I can go pick her up for lunch!

Stitch - have fun with the band. Sounds great, and Heather, if I get the chance I will take a peek at your challenge!

[carolyn d]

Oh man,,.. and I wonder why some days my head just feels so heavy !!!

sorry Lisa, this one is just too good to pass up.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/mamamolar/DSC_0270.jpg

[GrandmaCrys]

Love, love, love it! lol

[ReneT]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[addicted]

I agree with Rene, :rofl: :rofl:!

[Christine]

Hi everyone, I am back, but off to swim/run. Lex and I are "training". LOL Be back to catch up with you later and tell you about Adobe!

[idtwinmom]

OK, that one I can live with! But if you share yesterdays, you're in for it!!!!!!!!! :lol:

[Christine]

Wahoo Rene on your finished album, I am even more excited cuz I know that a bunch of the pages use my stuff. :lol: Looks like a fabulous album to me!

Stitchie, you go girl on your band jobs. Make sure you moan and groan a little so they know what a hardship it is for you and how much you are sacrificing to take all of those pictures. :rofl: :rofl:

Heather I so hear you about getting the family ready for church. :lol:

Hi Linda, Great to see you!

Rene, so cute how you made those family pictures into flair buttons, you clever girl you!

Carolyn and Lisa love that photo and sounds so fun! Be safe and come share when you have a second.

So we had a blast at Adobe! Lauren and Nicole were HILARIOUS!!!!! I got to meet in real life so many from the site and even made some new friends. I got a grand total of ONE page done and that was during the speed scrap. Amazing how I can do a LO in 30-40 minutes and yet only get ONE page done over EIGHT HOURS. Hmmmm anyone get the impression I am chatty? Here's the page if you want to see, just so nobody gets confused, this is Zach, not Josh. I know they look so much alike it is easy to wonder how Josh got old enough for scouts. :D

http://www.digitalscrapbookplace.com/forum/../gallery/data/7192/thumbs/FlagCeremony.jpg (http://www.digitalscrapbookplace.com/forum/../gallery/showphoto.php?photo=328975&ppuser=62565)
Flag Ceremony (http://www.digitalscrapbookplace.com/forum/../gallery/showphoto.php?photo=328975&cat=500&ppuser=62565)

[stitchmich]

Hi all! I see Carolyn filled you in! We are having so much fun and the kids have already complained that "Miss Carolyn" isn't here and the game has to wait. Yes, she left her card reader and the 300+ photos we have taken (yep, me and the kids have played with her Nikon D300 pro camera) with it! Guess she should bring her laptop and spend a minute copying huh! :lol:

She did leave out that the weather is cooperating and the rain we've had has been at night and that Friday, we yakked so much it was nearly midnight before I took her back to her room! The daylight at 11PM is really throwing her a curve! And last night at 10 the sun was still above the horizon and bright orange and yellows stripes. Wished I had the camera in hand at that moment! We will be working on her landscape photo's soon!

Well, off to pay bills so that I can go pick her up for lunch!

Stitch - have fun with the band. Sounds great, and Heather, if I get the chance I will take a peek at your challenge!

I'm so glad you two are having fun, though there wasn't any doubt you would. It still blows my mind everytime I think of daylight at 11pm. How are you handling that, Carolyn. Lisa, you look just mahvelous with antlers!! :rofl::rofl: I can't wait to see some landscapes. I would love to visit Alaska some day.

Chris, good to hear you had such fun at Adobe. I thought I was so smart... I was determined to get to the crazy chicks chat last week, pulled up to the computer and nobody was in the chat room! :rofl::rofl: maybe I'll get there again when somebody is there :p

Is anybody else ready for their kids to go back to school? I am. I need to get back on a regular schedule. I can't seem to get caught up. That's life, though, right? Life's a journey, not a destination :D

[Christine]

Crazy Chicks is THIS week, my dear! :D Just think you only have 3 days to wait. :lol:

[ReneT]

Wahoo Rene on your finished album, I am even more excited cuz I know that a bunch of the pages use my stuff. :lol: Looks like a fabulous album to me!

Stitchie, you go girl on your band jobs. Make sure you moan and groan a little so they know what a hardship it is for you and how much you are sacrificing to take all of those pictures. :rofl: :rofl:

Heather I so hear you about getting the family ready for church. :lol:

Hi Linda, Great to see you!

Rene, so cute how you made those family pictures into flair buttons, you clever girl you!

Carolyn and Lisa love that photo and sounds so fun! Be safe and come share when you have a second.

So we had a blast at Adobe! Lauren and Nicole were HILARIOUS!!!!! I got to meet in real life so many from the site and even made some new friends. I got a grand total of ONE page done and that was during the speed scrap. Amazing how I can do a LO in 30-40 minutes and yet only get ONE page done over EIGHT HOURS. Hmmmm anyone get the impression I am chatty? Here's the page if you want to see, just so nobody gets confused, this is Zach, not Josh. I know they look so much alike it is easy to wonder how Josh got old enough for scouts. :D

http://www.digitalscrapbookplace.com/forum/../gallery/data/7192/thumbs/FlagCeremony.jpg (http://www.digitalscrapbookplace.com/forum/../gallery/showphoto.php?photo=328975&ppuser=62565)
Flag Ceremony (http://www.digitalscrapbookplace.com/forum/../gallery/showphoto.php?photo=328975&cat=500&ppuser=62565)

Oh my heck! I thought it was Josh! Wow, they DO look so much alike! That's crazy! I love your layout. Maybe you should make that into a QC with those circles.

[ReneT]

Oh, and yes, Chris, MANY, MANY of the album pages are your stuff! Cerulean Dreams, Cerulean Memories, many of your overlays and QC's. Your stuff just ROCKS!!!! Your overlays are just so versatile! I love them. More, more, more!

[Christine]

ahhhhhh, I am blushing! but GRINNING! :D

[ReneT]

Crys, LOVE the new avi. Very cute!

[Christine]

Looks like Lisa, Rene and Crys all have new and fabulous avi's. :yes:

[suvgal]

Dropping by to say HI
On our flight from Chicago to CT we saw lightning on the side of the plane and under us. It was eerie and breathtaking. I only wish I had my camera handy as I probably won't see anything like that again.
It was a great crop and am looking forward to another hopefully on the east coast.

[Christine]

Hey Barbara! So glad you and hubby made it home safely! It was so awesome to meet you!

[addicted]

Is anybody else ready for their kids to go back to school? YES! I am. I need to get back on a regular schedule. I can't seem to get caught up. Glad I'm not the only one that feels this way. That's life, though, right? Life's a journey, not a destination :D

Does that answer your ? :rofl:

[stitchmich]

Crazy Chicks is THIS week, my dear! :D Just think you only have 3 days to wait. :lol:

I know, I'm just silly. what can i say? Is Crazy Chicks every other week? or was it cancelled last week because of Adobe?

Looks like Lisa, Rene and Crys all have new and fabulous avi's. :yes:

I'm loving all your new avi's. I should work on a new one. Maybe Rene could give me some tips, cuz she seems to change hers regularly ;) (which I think is cool, btw)

Does that answer your ? :rofl:

Hahahaha, Heather!!! I'm so glad somebody else feels the way I do. I'm always so happy to see a school year end, but even happier when a new school year starts! :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[ReneT]

Ugh! Chris, I was making some changes to the Halle layout like you suggested, and PSE quit working right in the middle of it. So frustrating. I wish I could figure out what is wrong with this goofy computer. It's still having problems with the "not responding" when I'm on the internet and in PSE. No suggestions anyone can think of for fixing it work. It wasn't the USB cords the computer dude suggested. I've decided it's haunted. It's the only explanation I can come up with. LOL

[ReneT]

Oh, one more thing. Tomorrow morning I take Doxie back to the vet. I'm supposed to just drop her off and my vet is going to run the blood tests again and then do a scan of her liver if the blood work is still messed up. If not, then I'll go pick her up. I'm praying she just ate something she dug up in the yard, and that's all it was. :pray:

[addicted]

Good luck with Doxie tomorrow. I hope the tests come back good.

[ReneT]

I know, I'm just silly. what can i say? Is Crazy Chicks every other week? or was it cancelled last week because of Adobe?



I'm loving all your new avi's. I should work on a new one. Maybe Rene could give me some tips, cuz she seems to change hers regularly ;) (which I think is cool, btw)



Hahahaha, Heather!!! I'm so glad somebody else feels the way I do. I'm always so happy to see a school year end, but even happier when a new school year starts! :rofl::rofl::rofl:

That's why they call it Crazy Chicks Michelle, cuz we're all crazy girls. lol

I just get bored with my avi's, so I change them. I've discovered a setting on my Portraiture filter, and I've been running lots of photos through it, just to see what it looks like. That's what I did to the photo from my avi (and layered it a few times). I even ran some doggie photos through it to see what effects I can get. Pretty cool setting called "High Key" effect. It makes it look really dramatic, and I've been playing around with it with color and B/W photos.

[ReneT]

Good luck with Doxie tomorrow. I hope the tests come back good.

Thanks Heather.

[carolyn d]

babysat for the kidlets tonight so Lisa and Chris could have "date night". ..... then came back to do battle with my computer ! Seems a group of people came in and were using the hostel internet passwork while out and about, so the manager changed the password. Now, it it quite inconveneint not to have internet when wanting to check in with others !!1 ( family/friends etc.)

Glad to see that all had a great time with their various adventures. Maybe next year will be an Adobe ,, if there is one that is.
tomorrow we are taking the train to Seward- glaciers bald eagles etc..Off to bed shortly.

[carolyn d]

ugh! Chris, i was making some changes to the halle layout like you suggested, and pse quit working right in the middle of it. So frustrating. I wish i could figure out what is wrong with this goofy computer. It's still having problems with the "not responding" when i'm on the internet and in pse. No suggestions anyone can think of for fixing it work. It wasn't the usb cords the computer dude suggested. I've decided it's haunted. It's the only explanation i can come up with. Lol
voo doo

[carolyn d]

OK, that one I can live with! But if you share yesterdays, you're in for it!!!!!!!!! :lol:

hmmmmmmmmmmmm when I think of the amount of "blackmail" shots you have of ME versus the ONE I have of you.... makes me totally rethink how "smart" it would be to put that one little itty bitty picture of you sliding down the slide .. and what one you would hit me back with. The percentages of choice are defintely on your side.

[ReneT]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm when I think of the amount of "blackmail" shots you have of ME versus the ONE I have of you.... makes me totally rethink how "smart" it would be to put that one little itty bitty picture of you sliding down the slide .. and what one you would hit me back with. The percentages of choice are defintely on your side.

We want to see them all! :D

[GrandmaCrys]

Crys, LOVE the new avi. Very cute!

Thanks, Rene. I so seldom like pictures of myself, and when I run across one that I do like, I must pounce!! :D

Ugh! Chris, I was making some changes to the Halle layout like you suggested, and PSE quit working right in the middle of it. So frustrating. I wish I could figure out what is wrong with this goofy computer. It's still having problems with the "not responding" when I'm on the internet and in PSE. No suggestions anyone can think of for fixing it work. It wasn't the USB cords the computer dude suggested. I've decided it's haunted. It's the only explanation I can come up with. LOL


I must have the same haunt! or VOO DOO or whaever! :( :( :( Those things happen to me all the time. I do not think Vista and PSCS3 like each other very much! ;)

Last night, in particular, I had been working on a LO for about 5 hours! :eek: :eek: Suddenly, when trying to click on one of the layers, I got that message about the integer having to have a certain value...blah...blah...blah..

It would NOT allow me to click OK. I could click NOTHING! I could NOT put an integer anywhere! Finally had to resort to Task Manager and when I tried shutting down, I got a message saying CS3 was waiting for my response. So, I went back and tried to give it a response. Suddenly, that computer became my DH on one of his most frustrating days. "I'm going to ask you a question, but there's no way on God's green earth that I'm going to hear or accept your answer!" :help: :help: :help: (Am I the only one with a DH who plays this game? :annoyed: :annoyed: :annoyed:)

Finally, I just had to *pull the plug*. Must have been my hooties' way of telling me the layout was stinky! :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:

Chris, sounds like you had such an awesome time at the Adobe crop. You sure were missed here! :hug: :hug:

Suvgal, you've got my kind of luck with unavailable cameras and great shots. After the SLC crop last Jan., I laid over in Phoenix on my way home, which then gave me the opportunity of flying over the Grand Canyon. I had left SLC with a dead camera battery! :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

When my boys were in school, I was always so glad for the new year to begin, too. But...because that meant the boys would come home from spending the summer with their dad! :D :D

[GrandmaCrys]

Oh, I forgot to say, we want blackmail photos from BOTH sides, please! :D

[idtwinmom]

Ugh! Chris, I was making some changes to the Halle layout like you suggested, and PSE quit working right in the middle of it. So frustrating. I wish I could figure out what is wrong with this goofy computer. It's still having problems with the "not responding" when I'm on the internet and in PSE. No suggestions anyone can think of for fixing it work. It wasn't the USB cords the computer dude suggested. I've decided it's haunted. It's the only explanation I can come up with. LOL

It's called "Windows"!!!!!!!!!

hmmmmmmmmmmmm when I think of the amount of "blackmail" shots you have of ME versus the ONE I have of you.... makes me totally rethink how "smart" it would be to put that one little itty bitty picture of you sliding down the slide .. and what one you would hit me back with. The percentages of choice are defintely on your side.

Hmmmmm....can't imagine what of those lovely photo's I have taken could possibly be called a "blackmail" photo! You could not possibly mean one like this:
http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq231/idtwinmom/gotcha.jpg

Oh, I forgot to say, we want blackmail photos from BOTH sides, please! :D

TeeHee! (I do have worse BTW!)

And I was going to say I loved your new avi too Crys! Great photo of you and teh baby!

Well, we have decided to take a day off and do the train later in the week. The kids have just reached the end of company and traveling and yesterday's venture was hard on us all. So Carolyn is off on her own adventures while the kids and I get a much needed "normal" day in. I have done some of the horrible "h" word and the kids are just playing happily. We will be off again in a couple days.

[GrandmaCrys]

Thanks, Lisa and by the looks of the picture, your kids probably do need a break back to the *normal* for a bit! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[stitchmich]

Rene, how did you doggie do at the vet? I hope it went well.

Carolyn and Lisa, we neeeeed photos, especially blackmail photos! :lol:

[idtwinmom]

Well, I do have one where she has her tongue sticking out at me! But I'm afraid if I upload it, she will be showing off the "slide" photo of me! :lol:

[idtwinmom]

BTW - I have uploaded 2 LOs today, both with photo's Carolyn has taken.


Zoo Hairdo
http://www.digitalscrapbookplace.com/gallery/data/2645/thumbs/Hairdo.jpg (http://www.digitalscrapbookplace.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=329327&ppuser=90601)


Step into the light
http://www.digitalscrapbookplace.com/gallery/data/824/thumbs/DarkRoom.jpg (http://www.digitalscrapbookplace.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=329349&ppuser=90601)

[poohbear77]

We arrived back in Anchorage super early this morning. I slept for most of the morning/afternoon due to the pure jetlag and also the antihistamine I took last night. We just got back from taking Macintosh for a walk at Campbell Lake Park and had a wonderful time. We actually came across a mama moose and her two calves. The mama was behind the barbed wire fence munching on some grass and as we were watching her, out popped her two babies from our side of the trail. They walked across the bike path and started munching on grass. They got very curious about Macintosh and eventually came over to check him out. Luckily he didn't bark! Both moose actually touched noses with Mac too! It was so amazing! I wanted to reach out and just pet them, but I knew that could potentially spook them and set mama off to charge so I didn't. All I could think about was how amazing this was and kicking myself for not having my camera!

If you haven't ever been to Alaska, I highly recommend it. Hey Chris, maybe you can talk the rest of the DSP team into an Alaskan crop? :) Just think of the amazing photos everyone would get!

Now I am hoping to stay awake for the meteor shower planned for tonight. Hope everyone had a wonderful day!

[stitchmich]

We arrived back in Anchorage super early this morning. I slept for most of the morning/afternoon due to the pure jetlag and also the antihistamine I took last night. We just got back from taking Macintosh for a walk at Campbell Lake Park and had a wonderful time. We actually came across a mama moose and her two calves. The mama was behind the barbed wire fence munching on some grass and as we were watching her, out popped her two babies from our side of the trail. They walked across the bike path and started munching on grass. They got very curious about Macintosh and eventually came over to check him out. Luckily he didn't bark! Both moose actually touched noses with Mac too! It was so amazing! I wanted to reach out and just pet them, but I knew that could potentially spook them and set mama off to charge so I didn't. All I could think about was how amazing this was and kicking myself for not having my camera!

If you haven't ever been to Alaska, I highly recommend it. Hey Chris, maybe you can talk the rest of the DSP team into an Alaskan crop? :) Just think of the amazing photos everyone would get!

Now I am hoping to stay awake for the meteor shower planned for tonight. Hope everyone had a wonderful day!

I'd love to visit Alaska, but it sure is a long way from me. Too bad you didn't have your camera with you! I would think a mama moose would be an awesome but scary sight up close and personal. I thought about the meteor shower last night, but couldn't stay awake. It was cloudy here so I doubt I would have seen it.

[wardlw]

My husband and I had a trip to Alaska planned two years ago but had to cancel because of a family emergency. ( Sorry my computor was threatning to shut down and install some updates). Now to go on with my story. We just never made any plans after that. We are retired and planned on driving from Ohio. We have a 35ft fithwheel but bought a small pick-up camper to use for the trip. We were going to ferry either up or down (decsion to be made when we got there.) I was sooo looking forward to the trip and hope to do it next year. By the way the pick-up camper has not been used.

[wardlw]

Lisa and Carolyn you better get some landscape photos posted because I plan on using them to get my husband motivated again. Carolyn you have dragged us into this trip with you so you have a responsibility to quit goofing around with Lisa and family and get some serious work done. (meaning photos, of course).:lol::lol::lol: Anxious to hear what mishief you all get into next. Glad you are having fun!:love3:

[Christine]

Kristie glad u got home safe. Wow about the moose! I would love to come to Alaska dh could fish and I could take pics. What a plan. :D

[Christine]

That does sound fun Linda! Lots more fun than going to work which is what I am doing today. In fact better get off the elliptical soon and get ready.

[GrandmaCrys]

Oh, Rene! Where are you?

Chris, work? Blech!

Linda, get that guy in gear and head out! (And pick me up on the way, 'cause that's the only plan by which I would ever get there! :()